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07-10-2024, 10:53 AM
#361
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ's 1988 DPOY is now being "Questioned". HOME vs ROAD Steals has twice as much G
 Originally Posted by 3ba11
RIGHT NOW - you're at a crossroads in your life - you can choose to continue being a sucker and falling for frauds, or you can say "today is the day that I enlighten myself and carefully read the previous post above that debunks the fraud"
It's up to you.
The fraud just got exposed, yet you choose to support one.
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07-10-2024, 10:59 AM
#362
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: MJ's 1988 DPOY is now being "Questioned". HOME vs ROAD Steals has twice as much G
 Originally Posted by Phoenix
You have no clue as to why I posted it. In fact, the ending conclusion of the video seemed to be that MJ was disruptive enough that regardless of stat tracking the DPOY award was still warranted. You're focused on the stats because that's all you focus on( like boiling everything to PPG). It's like the guy said, Rodman didn't even average a block or steal in his DPOY campaigns but nobody would dispute his impact as a defender.
Once again, shut the fukk up. LMAO at you thinking I need to tailor my posts to meet your standards or I'm 'treated as such'. Imagine a sad little basement dweller like you thinking you have some relevance.
He said he would get to that in his next video, on who really deserved DPOY that year.
His conclusion was that his blocks weren't really inflated as much, but there were some obvious fake steals rewarded to MJ.
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07-10-2024, 11:03 AM
#363
Euros rule NBA, UMAD?
Re: MJ's 1988 DPOY is now being "Questioned". HOME vs ROAD Steals has twice as much G
 Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
He said he would get to that in his next video, on who really deserved DPOY that year.
His conclusion was that his blocks weren't really inflated as much, but there were some obvious fake steals rewarded to MJ.
That was my takeaway, his BPGs should have been higher. Blocks in general are harder stat to fudge I think.
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07-10-2024, 11:22 AM
#364
Re: MJ's 1988 DPOY is now being "Questioned". HOME vs ROAD Steals has twice as much G
 Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Looks like the only person who went back to watch the games confirmed what the article said.
MJ is cooked.
not really
But the 1988 MJ blocks were overlooked.
The YT guy literally created TWO categories for "stocks." It never works that way. Either its a Block or Steal. or block leading to steal counted as 1. which one is it. two 'definitive', 'borderline' garbage never works. Its either one of the other. sorry to bust your bubble.
Back then they had this weird theory of which is considered clear block or clear steal if they are too close.
I see 1988 MJs marginal blocks counted as few steals sinch they deliberately UNDERcooked 1988 MJs home game blocks.
Also, just remember, if Chicago stockskeepers were doing this, just how bad was LAL and BOS and PHI and MIL and HOU were doing it too.
If weakest of the weak Cooper can win 1987 DPOY off the bench. anybody can.
Last edited by gengiskhan; 07-10-2024 at 11:28 AM.
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07-10-2024, 11:30 AM
#365
Re: MJ's 1988 DPOY is now being "Questioned". HOME vs ROAD Steals has twice as much G
 Originally Posted by Phoenix
That was my takeaway, his BPGs should have been higher. Blocks in general are harder stat to fudge I think.
If block was just like a finger or two, every borderline leading to loose ball steal. they may have given it as "steal" count. it always happened in the NBA.
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07-10-2024, 01:33 PM
#366
Re: MJ's 1988 DPOY is now being "Questioned". HOME vs ROAD Steals has twice as much G
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The video shows that blocks were deflated by the exact amount that steals were inflated:
So it's obvious that various blocks were credited as steals, possibly due to a rule where certain types of blocks outside the paint were recorded as steals - the videomaker acknowledges this possibility in the comment section.
We can't know without play-by-play data because there's no way to know if a deflection was missed entirely or credited to someone, so the entire exercise is meaningless and amounts to fraud.
This video claimed to have 28 "definitive" blocks and 20 more that were possibilities, so that's an absurd amount of variance, which is why the play-by-play data is mandatory..
The only person to do an analysis of Jordan's steals with play-by-play data is "Uncut Hoops", who did a video showing a 7-game sample of Jordan's 1997 steals and they were all accurate
Last edited by 3ba11; 07-10-2024 at 01:40 PM.
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07-10-2024, 11:27 PM
#367
Professor Objectivity
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07-11-2024, 01:39 PM
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