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04-05-2025, 09:13 PM
#136
NBA rookie of the year
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by RRR3
Everyone who is paying attention sees the parallels to Nazi Germany, but try telling that to MAGA and they just rage and fill their diapers
If we exterminate losers like yourself I'm fine with it.
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04-05-2025, 11:41 PM
#137
It is what it is
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc.
If we exterminate losers like yourself I'm fine with it.
Lol, how was that Super Bowl for ya? Decided to finally show your mug around these parts, eh? 
Effing coward
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04-06-2025, 02:21 AM
#138
Whap'em
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by TheMan
Yeah if you want industry to come back, the government needs to help out also but this dumbass one does the opposite, they cut the CHIPs Act that was supposed to help manufacturers come to America
It's hilarious you think Trump is using tariffs to encourage manufacturers to the US, it's for nefarious reasons, pick one of several theories out there.
Yes if you start production in the US you don't have to pay any tariffs, how nefarious. And lol no I'm not going to pick one of your crazy conspiracy theories
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04-06-2025, 03:44 AM
#139
It is what it is
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by ZenMaster
Yes if you start production in the US you don't have to pay any tariffs, how nefarious. And lol no I'm not going to pick one of your crazy conspiracy theories 
Dummy, if you want to encourage businesses to bring back jobs to the US, you offer loan guarantees, grants, tax benefits etc. You don't cut programs like the CHIPs Act Trump is offering none of that...this is just to consolidate power, this idiot is talking openly about a third term, never mind it's wholly unconstitutional. Wake up.
Thankfully people are waking up, his approvals are tanking and I predicted his approvals would be in the 30s by 2028, he's well on his way towards that. If he does try to stay in power, his corpse will be dragged out of the White House, the vast majority of us don't want a dictator.
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04-06-2025, 04:13 AM
#140
NBA rookie of the year
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by ZenMaster
Yes if you start production in the US you don't have to pay any tariffs, how nefarious. And lol no I'm not going to pick one of your crazy conspiracy theories 
It's too late for that, especially by just raising and introducing tariffs. If production was brought back to the US labour would still be more expensive than overseas so a hike in prices will happen no matter what.
You could argue that atleast american workers get wages, but you can be sure they'll be bargained as low as possible. In the end it benefits a small group of people that are already at the top of the companies trying to shift production back to the US. I wonder if there are historic examples of that happening.
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04-06-2025, 04:43 AM
#141
Whap'em
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by TheMan
Dummy, if you want to encourage businesses to bring back jobs to the US, you offer loan guarantees, grants, tax benefits etc. You don't cut programs like the CHIPs Act  Trump is offering none of that...this is just to consolidate power, this idiot is talking openly about a third term, never mind it's wholly unconstitutional. Wake up.
Thankfully people are waking up, his approvals are tanking and I predicted his approvals would be in the 30s by 2028, he's well on his way towards that. If he does try to stay in power, his corpse will be dragged out of the White House, the vast majority of us don't want a dictator.
They've been encouraged in the past and still did what they could to move production of US cars away from the US, so now they'll just be forced to move production back instead.
Do tell me more about how business who profit billions of dollars per year needs more tax benefits and loan guarantees lol. They get the benefit of NOT paying 25% tariff on their Mexican import product, should be all the incentive they need.
You guys are all over the place, oh he's consolidating power, he's actually a nazi, he's actually working with Putin on taking over the world, he's in the pocket of Musk who's the real President, Musk is actually working with Putin, he's just there to to enrich his friends, he's stupid and has no idea what he's doing, he's going to try and take over the world as a dictator, he'll start WWIII on purpose, he's tanking the economy on purpose etc.
You've reached such a peak level with this, that you're now telling me to "just pick your own conspiracy" and go with it
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04-06-2025, 05:15 AM
#142
Whap'em
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by Overdrive
It's too late for that, especially by just raising and introducing tariffs. If production was brought back to the US labour would still be more expensive than overseas so a hike in prices will happen no matter what.
You could argue that atleast american workers get wages, but you can be sure they'll be bargained as low as possible. In the end it benefits a small group of people that are already at the top of the companies trying to shift production back to the US. I wonder if there are historic examples of that happening.
Too late for what? The world isn't ending tomorrow or next year you know.. It's funny with people like you, where there's just no solution. They ship over cars made in Europe to the US, but not the other way. You can certainly change the rules so it can either be done both ways, or so the brands will have local production on both continents.
We'll see where potential price hikes ends up at, e.g Ford is already offering it's "From America, For America" deal where customers get discounts at same level as employees until June 3. I have strong doubts you'll just see a general price hike of 25% from one day to the other as it might lead to any of these manufacturers losing maybe 50% of their sales, and the real profit for automakers isn't on the individual sale itself, but to sell a lot of cars so they can service them for years after.
Plenty of cars made in the US that manufacturers profit from, some cars are even made both in the US and Mexico, without the Mexican model being cheaper.
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04-06-2025, 07:55 AM
#143
81 on the Raptors
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by TheMan
Dummy, if you want to encourage businesses to bring back jobs to the US, you offer loan guarantees, grants, tax benefits etc. You don't cut programs like the CHIPs Act  Trump is offering none of that...this is just to consolidate power, this idiot is talking openly about a third term, never mind it's wholly unconstitutional. Wake up.
Thankfully people are waking up, his approvals are tanking and I predicted his approvals would be in the 30s by 2028, he's well on his way towards that. If he does try to stay in power, his corpse will be dragged out of the White House, the vast majority of us don't want a dictator.
This clown now wants more tax breaks for the rich
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04-06-2025, 09:33 AM
#144
NBA Legend
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by TheMan
Dummy, if you want to encourage businesses to bring back jobs to the US, you offer loan guarantees, grants, tax benefits etc. You don't cut programs like the CHIPs Act  Trump is offering none of that...this is just to consolidate power, this idiot is talking openly about a third term, never mind it's wholly unconstitutional. Wake up.
Thankfully people are waking up, his approvals are tanking and I predicted his approvals would be in the 30s by 2028, he's well on his way towards that. If he does try to stay in power, his corpse will be dragged out of the White House, the vast majority of us don't want a dictator.
TDS has you melting down after midnight on a Saturday
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04-06-2025, 12:41 PM
#145
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
Elon Musk is now starting to speak out against the tariffs.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-m...d-goes-public/
I knew it would only be a matter of time before the oligarchs finally stood up to Trump. Trillions wiped from their wealth, and a market drop comparable to covid will do it. It is going to be interesting to see Trump's ego feud with them.
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04-06-2025, 12:45 PM
#146
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
I think the one positive here, is that if Trump does in fact completely burn the world's economy to the ground. It will finally unite us all together, and MAGA will be reduced to a small group of extremists.
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04-06-2025, 01:03 PM
#147
NBA Legend
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
Pelosi wanting the same as Trump, so why is it different now??
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04-06-2025, 04:50 PM
#148
NBA rookie of the year
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by ZenMaster
Too late for what? The world isn't ending tomorrow or next year you know.. It's funny with people like you, where there's just no solution. They ship over cars made in Europe to the US, but not the other way. You can certainly change the rules so it can either be done both ways, or so the brands will have local production on both continents.
We'll see where potential price hikes ends up at, e.g Ford is already offering it's "From America, For America" deal where customers get discounts at same level as employees until June 3. I have strong doubts you'll just see a general price hike of 25% from one day to the other as it might lead to any of these manufacturers losing maybe 50% of their sales, and the real profit for automakers isn't on the individual sale itself, but to sell a lot of cars so they can service them for years after.
Plenty of cars made in the US that manufacturers profit from, some cars are even made both in the US and Mexico, without the Mexican model being cheaper.
https://www.fromtheroad.ford.com/us/...daily%20lives.
Assemble is the magic word. The discounts are on pretariff models.
Give it a few months of tariffs and we'll see.
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04-06-2025, 04:52 PM
#149
NBA rookie of the year
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by Bill Gates
I think the one positive here, is that if Trump does in fact completely burn the world's economy to the ground. It will finally unite us all together, and MAGA will be reduced to a small group of extremists.
Funny how Trump does the "great reset" the maga heads and conspiracy nuts are so afraid of and even cheer for it.
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04-06-2025, 05:05 PM
#150
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Trump announces 25% tariff on all imported cars and car parts
 Originally Posted by Overdrive
Funny how Trump does the "great reset" the maga heads and conspiracy nuts are so afraid of and even cheer for it.
You are a european ****** who depends on the US for defense that subsidizes all of your social programs.
Cringe.
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