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06-12-2025, 09:27 AM
#226
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Wade or Iverson?
Peak Wade was on the level of peak Kobe and not too far from LeBron's peak.
I don't know how this is a question.
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06-12-2025, 09:32 AM
#227
Re: Wade or Iverson?
 Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Peak Wade was on the level of peak Kobe and not too far from LeBron's peak.
I don't know how this is a question.
Peak AI was better than Peak Kobe.
Reason he actualy won Season MVP over much deserving 2001 Shaq.
while leading the NBA in steals as well.
Hate all you want. Peak AI was always better than Peak Kobe carrying garbage PHILLY to 2001 NBA Finals.
while leading NBA in Scoring and Steals. All done in single season. Only MJ did that.
Now try defending Kobe against this? When was Kobe ever this Peak offensively and defensively ever?
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06-12-2025, 09:36 AM
#228
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Wade or Iverson?
 Originally Posted by gengiskhan
Peak AI was better than Peak Kobe.
Reason he actualy won Season MVP over much deserving 2001 Shaq.
while leading the NBA in steals as well.
Hate all you want. Peak AI was always better than Peak Kobe carrying garbage PHILLY to 2001 NBA Finals.
while leading NBA in Scoring and Steals. All done in single season. Only MJ did that.
Now try defending Kobe against this? When was Kobe ever this Peak offensively and defensively ever?

And leading an East team to the Finals in the early 00's is nothing to brag about. Jason Kidd led the Nets to back to back Finals as well during that era.
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06-12-2025, 09:40 AM
#229
Re: Wade or Iverson?
Peak AI
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2001 NBA Season MVP (beating prime, peak 2001 Shaq)
2001 NBA Finals MVP Runner-Up (destroying 2001 Kobe and losing to Peak Prime Dominant 2001 Shaq)
2001 NBA Scoring Champion
2001 NBA Steals Champion.
only a level below.....
Peak MJ
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1988 NBA Season MVP
1988 NBA Scoring Champion
1988 NBA DPOY
1988 NBA Steals Champion
Peak Hakeem
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1994 NBA Season MVP (Beating 1994 Season MVP Runner-up Ewing)
1994 NBA Finals MVP (Beating 1994 Season MVP Runner-Up Ewing)
1994 NBA DPOY
Kobe and Wade never ever came close to AI's Peak.
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06-12-2025, 09:47 AM
#230
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Wade or Iverson?
 Originally Posted by Meticode
Is LeBron a scorer then?
Of course. Hes literally the leading scorer of all time.
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06-12-2025, 09:50 AM
#231
Re: Wade or Iverson?
When someone is referred to as a pure scorer, it usually refers to their ability to score in isolation in a 1 on 1 situation.
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06-12-2025, 10:09 AM
#232
Cancer
Re: Wade or Iverson?
Wade by a country mile.
Wade in 2009 is better than any AI season.
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06-12-2025, 10:13 AM
#233
Embiid > Jokic
Re: Wade or Iverson?
I usually don't like when people make this argument, but it's the truth in this regard, it's Wade and it's not even close. I've always found Iverson to be insanely overrated.
People bringing up his scoring and scoring titles, the guy was taking 25 shots a night, Wade has 1 season he averaged more than 20, no shit Iverson is going to score more points and win scoring titles taking 25 shots a game. The irony here being that the one season Wade did take over 20 shots a game, he won the scoring title.
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06-12-2025, 10:22 AM
#234
Trumptard triggerer
Re: Wade or Iverson?
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
I usually don't like when people make this argument, but it's the truth in this regard, it's Wade and it's not even close. I've always found Iverson to be insanely overrated.
People bringing up his scoring and scoring titles, the guy was taking 25 shots a night, Wade has 1 season he averaged more than 20, no shit Iverson is going to score more points and win scoring titles taking 25 shots a game. The irony here being that the one season Wade did take over 20 shots a game, he won the scoring title.
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06-12-2025, 12:33 PM
#235
Re: Wade or Iverson?
 Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
And leading an East team to the Finals in the early 00's is nothing to brag about. Jason Kidd led the Nets to back to back Finals as well during that era.
Kidd is 6'4", a PG version of 6'4" Wade.
AI is literally 5'11" and some say even 5'10" barefoot.
AI has no business leading a team to NBA Finals amongst the giants. AI was born to be 2nd fiddle to Giants like Shaq, Zo, Duncan and Jokic.
Just imagine what AI would've accomplish he was blessed to be in LAL (Shaq's little bro) or SAS (alongside Duncan). Just imagine!
GTFO with that weak sheet.
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06-12-2025, 12:38 PM
#236
Re: Wade or Iverson?
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
I usually don't like when people make this argument, but it's the truth in this regard, it's Wade and it's not even close. I've always found Iverson to be insanely overrated.
People bringing up his scoring and scoring titles, the guy was taking 25 shots a night, Wade has 1 season he averaged more than 20, no shit Iverson is going to score more points and win scoring titles taking 25 shots a game. The irony here being that the one season Wade did take over 20 shots a game, he won the scoring title.
Isn't Wade like 6'4" and long arms and big hands dude?
Wade UNDERaccomplished compared to AI.
Wade literally sat out 1 season and a 1/2 (aka MJ's retirement time) to give his single best season of 2009.
Thats how much Wade had in his tank interms of endurance, stamina and conditioning. Just 1 Single Season.
Had Wade not ran to LBJ and Bosh for SUPER TEAMing in MIA, His career amounts to good one but not Great one.
Just 1 FMVP isn't enough. to get him over AI.
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06-12-2025, 12:41 PM
#237
Re: Wade or Iverson?
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
I usually don't like when people make this argument, but it's the truth in this regard, it's Wade and it's not even close. I've always found Iverson to be insanely overrated.
People bringing up his scoring and scoring titles, the guy was taking 25 shots a night, Wade has 1 season he averaged more than 20, no shit Iverson is going to score more points and win scoring titles taking 25 shots a game. The irony here being that the one season Wade did take over 20 shots a game, he won the scoring title.
Why could'nt Wade match AI in steals titles? Not even 1? for a long arm, large hand wingspan guy?
AI has like literally 3 steals title. You act like AI did not play Defense or was a bad defender.
Its not just about scoring titles between AI and Wade. Wade just lacked endurance, stamina and conditioning like AI had.
Reason AI OVERaccomplished at 5'11".
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06-12-2025, 03:32 PM
#238
Sixers|Eagles|Phillies
Re: Wade or Iverson?
 Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
I usually don't like when people make this argument, but it's the truth in this regard, it's Wade and it's not even close. I've always found Iverson to be insanely overrated.
People bringing up his scoring and scoring titles, the guy was taking 25 shots a night, Wade has 1 season he averaged more than 20, no shit Iverson is going to score more points and win scoring titles taking 25 shots a game. The irony here being that the one season Wade did take over 20 shots a game, he won the scoring title.
What has Wade done when he was in AI shoes? Being the man. The season with Shaq does not count either. Wade is my 3rd favorite player of all time and both him and AI share similar qualities. Wade is pretty much to me a bigger version of AI to an extent. But wade had as much team success as the man running the show as AI. When he took over 20 shots and avg 30? Miami won 43gns and was a first rd exit. Someone like AI gets crucified for that. Talk about irony.
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06-12-2025, 04:51 PM
#239
Re: Wade or Iverson?
 Originally Posted by GOBB
What has Wade done when he was in AI shoes? Being the man. The season with Shaq does not count either. Wade is my 3rd favorite player of all time and both him and AI share similar qualities. Wade is pretty much to me a bigger version of AI to an extent. But wade had as much team success as the man running the show as AI. When he took over 20 shots and avg 30? Miami won 43gns and was a first rd exit. Someone like AI gets crucified for that. Talk about irony.
AI when took 30 SPG actually went to NBA finals and actually won NBA Season MVP.
Did 6'4" Wade eve do that. No.
If AI is overrated. so is Wade and Kobe.
If you think Kobe would've had any better career than AI as a HORNET, a non-LAL, you are fooling yourself.
AI for career is 42%FG guy. Kobe for a career is 44-45%FG player.
none of them are MJ, a career 50%FG SG.
only difference is AI and MJ actually get tons of steals. between 2 of them, there are 6 Steals titles.
Neither Wade nor kobe gets any.
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06-12-2025, 05:04 PM
#240
Trumptard triggerer
Re: Wade or Iverson?
 Originally Posted by gengiskhan
AI when took 30 SPG actually went to NBA finals and actually won NBA Season MVP.
Did 6'4" Wade eve do that. No.
If AI is overrated. so is Wade and Kobe.
If you think Kobe would've had any better career than AI as a HORNET, a non-LAL, you are fooling yourself.
AI for career is 42%FG guy. Kobe for a career is 44-45%FG player.
none of them are MJ, a career 50%FG SG.
only difference is AI and MJ actually get tons of steals. between 2 of them, there are 6 Steals titles.
Neither Wade nor kobe gets any.
Wade was a significantly better defender than Iverson. “Dumb as a rock Gengy” strikes again.
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