Using the KD Warriors is not an excuse for LeBron losing

[Wally450]

He lost to

2007 SAS
2014 SAS
2011 DAL
2015 GSW

He'ls been a loser without KDs GSW.

What were LeBron's averages in that series?

Who was his second option?

[ImKobe]

What were LeBron's averages in that series?

Who was his second option?

He only looked to stack the box score and laid an egg when Mozgov put up peak Pau numbers at home with a chance to go up 3 - 1 lol. 20 points on 7/22 FG & 5/10 FT while his big man gave him 28/10. Yikes. Only shot over 45% when he had Kyrie in Game 1 as well then after Kyrie got injured he shot 38% the rest of the series.


No one's impressed by him chucking 33 shots a game to average 36 on sub-40% shooting. Sorry.

[1987_Lakers]

No one's impressed by him chucking 33 shots a game to average 36 on sub-40% shooting. Sorry.

A Kobe fan talking about efficiency, lol.

It was so impressive that LeBron got 4 of the 11 Finals MVP votes despite his team losing. Legendary series for him.

[3ba11]

A Kobe fan talking about efficiency, lol.

It was so impressive that LeBron got 4 of the 11 Finals MVP votes despite his team losing. Legendary series for him.

Lebron played exactly like the worst versions Iverson or Westbrick in the 15' Finals (horrific efficiency and zero defense), yet LeMeda gives him credit for it... No one else does tho.. Hundreds of players have carried a team to loss in 6 games.. There's nothing special about it at all, except him playing worse than Iverson or Westbrick and getting credit for it (historic double standard)

[sdot_thadon]

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Regular Season

Hornacek.... 17.7 PER.. 2.9 bpm.. 0.153 ws/48.. 42.1 vorp on 33,964 min.. 15/3/5 on 58.2 ts
Klay............. 16.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.110 ws/48.. 14.4 vorp on 20,380 min.. 19/3/2 on 57.5 ts


Playoffs

Hornacek.... 16.5 PER.. 3.1 bpm.. 0.145 ws/48.. 14.1 vorp on 4766 min.. 15/4/4 on 57.5 ts
Klay............. 14.4 PER.. 0.7 bpm.. 0.091 ws/48.... 3.1 vorp on 4570 min.. 19/3/2 on 56.0 ts







The 2015 Warriors were +2800 in preseason odds, so no one thought they had a good roster, and they had a sidekick that produced less than Jeff Hornacek, yet Curry carried them to 67 and 73 wins..

So the Warriors were a trash cast that was carried by Curry, while Lebron had the only super-team in the league and the preseason favorite.. The Cavs were the only team with 3 franchise players team-up on 1 team (super-team)..

But despite Lebron's roster advantage, no one thought the Cavs could win because they barely won 50 games with the preseason favorite and didn't play great basketball.... However, no one anticipated the unprecedented help of a sidekick outplaying the MVP, or the suspension of Draymond... It's common consensus that the Warriors win in 5 games without the suspension.

In contrast to.people giving the Cavs no chance, people thought MJ could carry the Bulls over the 88-90' Bad Boys - they thought he would average 40 to win like he did in prior rounds... Jordan's 40 ppg looked so much more dominant than Lebron's 25 ppg, so they thought MJ could continue carrying the Bulls like he did in prior rounds... No one anticipated the Bad Boys "holding" MJ to 30 ppg .. People would've known that 30 wasn't enough to win.

You put way too much stock into preseason odds. Newsflash, they dont matter as much as you want them to. You know why the Warriors had such long odds? They weren't THE Warriors yet. They needed a philosophy shift and an alltime great coach to become the team that was favored and won 72 games. Kinda like the Bulls needed a similar philosophy change and all time great coach (amongst other things) to stop getting ram-rodded by teams like Detroit. Before the changes the only thing Mj carried was L's at a 1-9 ratio.....

[3ba11]

You put way too much stock into preseason odds. Newsflash, they dont matter as much as you want them to. You know why the Warriors had such long odds? They weren't THE Warriors yet. They needed a philosophy shift and an alltime great coach to become the team that was favored and won 72 games. Kinda like the Bulls needed a similar philosophy change and all time great coach (amongst other things) to stop getting ram-rodded by teams like Detroit. Before the changes the only thing Mj carried was L's at a 1-9 ratio.....

Phil was a 1st time nobody coach when MJ won in 1991

Phil needed to win 72 games to get COY with Jordan

So you don't know what you're talking about and are making stuff up 30 years later.

And preseason odds matter if there's a trend.. In this case, Lebron's teams barely win 50 games with the preseason favorite, so they fall to Finals underdog every year.. So his Finals underdog status is due to bed-wetting the regular season (bad basketball), and not the roster, since the roster is initially favored as the preseason favorite.

Hope that helps...And I would stop watching so much TV so you don't get fooled by these false narratives (aka "b-b-but Lebron's teams were always Finals underdogs!!!!").. lol

[gengiskhan]

LBJ himself had a SUPER TEAM with LBJ-Kyrie-Love in CLE.

This 2017 and 2018 GSW is the first SUPER TEAM LBJ's SUPER TEAM lost to.

They also lost to a very solid, good, GSW, non-super team in 2015 and 2014 SAS and 2011 DAL.