LeBron whining about "ring culture" in the NBA

[Wally450]

Both of them are unimpressive.

He wasn't even the worst QB in his second one.

[tpols]

Hes kind of right and OKC is showing it right now.

A guy like Tmac never made it out of the 1st round... you think he couldnt do that with this thunder team? Hes basically a 6'9 longer stronger tougher SGA.

[tpols]

He had to mention Nash

Nash was a multiple time MVP and his game didn't go down in the playoffs at all. He would've been champion if not for Robert Horrys cheap shot which ruined the series in 2007 on a technicality.

[1987_Lakers]

Hes kind of right and OKC is showing it right now.

A guy like Tmac never made it out of the 1st round... you think he couldnt do that with this thunder team? Hes basically a 6'9 longer stronger tougher SGA.

Yes.

MJ went 1-9 without Pip
Peak Kobe was getting bounced in the 1st round without a 2nd star

[3ba11]

The rule for great players is that they should win titles when they have all-star help

Lebron's skillset of turning everyone into spot-up shooter lacks sufficient chemistry to win with regular all-stars, so he needs franchise players and 1st options from other teams to play 2nd and 3rd option for him .. And then the weak chemistry STILL mostly loses.

So of course Lebron hates rings! He can't win them without unprecedented help and still mostly loses

[Doomsday Dallas]

Barry Bonds never won a world series and you can't sit here and tell me that he's not the greatest baseball player to ever touch a bat."[/I]

[Phoenix]

This was a question asked by a fan in the Mind the Game podcast. He was also asked who the toughest defender he had faced was and he said Ron Artest. I thought you was going to say Kawhi. Nash named Jason Kidd.

Also Nash and LeBron believe the triangle offense would fail in today's league because of pace and space. Tex Winter would have to adjust it somehow to make it work.

For anyone interested...

I think it was Phil(?) who said the ideal player type for the triangle was Shaq but in general, I think it was mostly built around the premise of having a great post weapon ala the aforementioned Shaq, MJ during the title years created tons of offense out of the post especially in the 2nd 3peat, and Kobe playing the '2nd 3peat' MJ role on those 09 and 10 Lakers squads. But also consider the overall pedigree of those names, I"m not aware of the triangle producing elite results( as in chips) without having that level of talent anchoring it along with the right surrounding pieces.

[SouBeachTalents]

So of course Lebron hates rings! He can't win them without unprecedented help and still mostly loses

LeBron winning with Wade averaging 16 ppg in 2013 really ruins this narrative for you.

[3ba11]

LeBron winning with Wade averaging 16 ppg in 2013 really ruins this narrative for you.

Lebron and Wade averaged 25 and 20 in the Finals, otherwise he faced the 49-win Pacers to win the East because his "decision" diluted the conference... This is why the championship level (Finals) is required to qualify for carrying the scoring load, or top 5 SRS opponents - Lebron has never carried the scoring load against either.

Lebron's inability to carry the "star" category of scoring requires more star help and prevents GM's from getting defensive help.. Accordingly, Lebron's inability to carry the scoring load prevents elite roster construction, while his skillset of imposing spot-up roles further hampers roster construction.

[IllegalD]

Yes.

MJ went 1-9 without Pip
Peak Kobe was getting bounced in the 1st round without a 2nd star

Because they played in an actual competitive conference unlike LeInsecure who got to cakewalk through the sh*t Leastern Conference.

[1987_Lakers]

Because they played in an actual competitive conference unlike LeInsecure who got to cakewalk through the sh*t Leastern Conference.

Kobe blew a 3-1 lead during that time.

[ImKobe]

LeBron winning with Wade averaging 16 ppg in 2013 really ruins this narrative for you.

How does that ruin his narrative when Wade averaged more than anyone on the Spurs in the 2013 Finals, and dropped 32 points in a must-win Game 4 on the road? Lebron averaged just 4.7 more points than Wade in the Finals. So D-Wade showed up when it mattered vs. their toughest competition.

[game3524]

He is right, but he is also the wrong guy to say it given his post 2010 decisions lol.

[RogueBorg]

From one steroid user to another...

[Full Court]

I can't think of a single day in which Full Court didn't send the stinky boy into a full on bitch fit.

No wonder he's consensus biggest loser on ISH.




(and stinky)