Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say

[Baller234]

actually no i don't think that he has any autonomy in regard to this particular scenario, certainly not enough to put his foot down and hold israel at bay.

look, trump is bought and compromised when it comes to israel - this isn't even up for debate. the cash flow log is a google search away. the adelsons, the greater israel lobby and the same neocons that were behind the iraq war that trump so vocally opposed before they had a hand in getting him elected are all influencing him on this. as i'm sure you're aware, this influence is overwhelming, especially as it continues to take shape over time and israel makes moves militarily to force his hand. it's no different than big $ entities that are in the pockets of us congresspeople. trump owes them.

that being said, let me turn around and ask you the same question. can you honestly tell me that trump really gives two shits about israel or at the least cares enough to assist in facilitating all of this, risking a major uprising from his base and the ensuing economic blowback that follows, if he weren't bought? do you really honestly think that he would risk doing the bidding of netanyahu and promote/encourage another foreign war in the ME that has, at the least, the potential to be the worst that we've seen yet, at minimum in regard to gas prices and our markets and at worst our building debt and body count at the expense of his legacy and america in general after centering his campaign on prioritizing our interests above all?

i don't think so. this is why i said that you know better.

Musk donated money to Trump's campaign too. Is Trump obligated to him in a similar fashion? I went on google like you said he donated almost 3x as much money as Adelson did.

Like I said let's assume you're right. Let's say Trump is really compromised to such a degree that he has no autonomy and that Israel is in charge of everything. What do they have to gain by starting WW3? No one has been able to answer that for me yet. Wouldn't a war of this scale hurt them just the same?

I'm asking in good faith here. What is Israel's so called grand scheme?

[ShawkFactory]

Musk donated money to Trump's campaign too. Is Trump obligated to him in a similar fashion? I went on google like you said he donated almost 3x as much money as Adelson did.

Like I said let's assume you're right. Let's say Trump is really compromised to such a degree that he has no autonomy and that Israel is in charge of everything. What do they have to gain by starting WW3? No one has been able to answer that for me yet. Wouldn't a war of this scale hurt them just the same?

I'm asking in good faith here. What is Israel's so called grand scheme?

I don't think they care. They know we'll protect them push come to shove and can do what they want.

I also don't think they believe WWIII is in the cards.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Imagine being one of the board's MAGAS.

You have to change your core principals over and over again to match Trump's whims in a given week.

Must be exhausting and humiliating.

[highwhey]

[Baller234]

I don't think they care. They know we'll protect them push come to shove and can do what they want.

I also don't think they believe WWIII is in the cards.

You don't think they care? About their own safety and security?

Recklessly engaging in a large scale war without any fear of repercussion doesn't sound very smart to me. It sounds like an awfully big gamble. In addition to Trump wouldn't Israel need the majority of U.S. congress on their side as well? You're already seeing people on Trump's own side disavow.

They would need to stage a direct attack on the U.S., but again that's also a huge gamble.

[RRR3]

You don't think they care? About their own safety and security?

Recklessly engaging in a large scale war without any fear of repercussion doesn't sound very smart to me. It sounds like an awfully big gamble. In addition to Trump wouldn't Israel need the majority of U.S. congress on their side as well? You're already seeing people on Trump's own side disavow.

They would need to stage a direct attack on the U.S., but again that's also a huge gamble.

Or maybe Netanyahu is insane?

[ShawkFactory]

You don't think they care? About their own safety and security?

Recklessly engaging in a large scale war without any fear of repercussion doesn't sound very smart to me. It sounds like an awfully big gamble. In addition to Trump wouldn't Israel need the majority of U.S. congress on their side as well? You're already seeing people on Trump's own side disavow.

They would need to stage a direct attack on the U.S., but again that's also a huge gamble.

Of course they care about their own well-being. I’m saying this is like the little guy talking shit with his 6’6 friend standing behind him.

He feels protected and is thus more willing to act irrationally.

[Baller234]

Of course they care about their own well-being. I’m saying this is like the little guy talking shit with his 6’6 friend standing behind him.

He feels protected and is thus more willing to act irrationally.

But where is the guarantee that U.S. will have their backing no matter what? What if the people aren't behind it and congress doesn't approve? Does Israel just have terabytes of Epstein files on EVERYONE?

[Baller234]

Or maybe Netanyahu is insane?

So he doesn't care if he lives or dies, nor does he care about the well being and security of his own country? He's just doing this all because he and the leaders of Israel thirst for blood and don't care about the consequences?

That's what you're proposing.

[RRR3]

But where is the guarantee that U.S. will have their backing no matter what? What if the people aren't behind it and congress doesn't approve? Does Israel just have terabytes of Epstein files on EVERYONE?

Because Israel is America's attack dog. We have long had an agreement that we protect and fund them in return for them doing what we want in the Middle East.

[RRR3]

So he doesn't care if he lives or dies, nor does he care about the well being and security of his own country? He's just doing this all because he and the leaders of Israel thirst for blood and don't care about the consequences?

That's what you're proposing.

I certainly hope not, but he's unhinged enough that I worry about it. Do you think politicians can't be insane?

[Baller234]

Because Israel is America's attack dog. We have long had an agreement that we protect and fund them in return for them doing what we want in the Middle East.

Wait so does Israel control America or does America control Israel?

[RRR3]

Wait so does Israel control America or does America control Israel?

The US is the power in the relationship, but Israel may go rogue at times too. But they couldn't do the stuff they do without US backing like shawkfactory said. I've never said Israel controls the US, you are arguing with ghosts as usual.

[Baller234]

I certainly hope not, but he's unhinged enough that I worry about it. Do you think politicians can't be insane?

Of course politicians can be insane, look at the democrats. That doesn't mean they walk around with a death wish.

I think politicians value self preservation above all. Most of them would flip on a dime in the name of surviving.

[highwhey]

The US is the power in the relationship, but Israel may go rogue at times too. But they couldn't do the stuff they do without US backing like shawkfactory said. I've never said Israel controls the US, you are arguing with ghosts as usual.

you are r3tard3d