Who is calling the shots? Trump or Israel?

[Baller234]

he's saying you're bitchmade and your opinion has little worth bc your loyalty is primarily towards the zionist lobby. frankly, i agree, especially with the first part. also the 2nd part, but emphasis on the bitchmade.

Right so if I accuse you of being "antisemetic" and resenting jews, it's actually me using an evil deflection tactic.

It has nothing to do with you being on record in several posts mocking and berating jews and using various memes depicting comically overblown stereotypes.

[Baller234]

You're strawman arguments are GOAT tier bro

How is it a strawman? It's an argument that was actually made in this thread.

I take it you agree then?

[Baller234]

The Democrats are just as bad this time around, except for a few Democrats, most haven't said a single word pushing back against Trump and the Zionists highly illegal attack on Iran. They're all on this perverted play.

Just like the Iraq War, those of us who oppose this Iran attack will be on the right side of history and those going along with Trump will be discarded to the trash bin of history like those who supported GWB's war crimes and pretend they never supported it, rinse and repeat until the American Empire finally collapses for good. That will be a great day for humanity, let's be honest.

Okay since we're being honest, tell me which empire you hope replaces us.

[jstern]

I could understand this being the case during classic Hollywood, but wouldn't you agree that things have changed? How else do you explain the decades long march towards wokism? Doesn't embracing wokism also mean embracing Islam and condemning Islamophobia?

Have you seen the oscars lately? Doesn't look like people in the industry seem very afraid to speak on behalf of Palestine. We're talking about people who star in big budget Disney films and Marvel movies. I definitely don't think everyone is Hollywood feels obligated or afraid to speak out against the so called evil zionists.

Also, how do you explain the MSM getting behind The Squad? Don't you think it's strange that Islamic sympathizers and anti-Zionists would grace so many magazine covers and get the fluff treatment? AOC isn't exactly the greatest friend to Israel but she has no problem getting an appearance on Kimmel or Colbert? Why is that? Wouldn't the zionists in control already have taken her out of the game? Why would they push her as a star?

By letting people like AOC and as a face of Israel criticism, it taints it for people on the right. If AOC supports Palestinians, then the topic is no longer about whatever is going on there, it just becomes another culture war. It's triggering. If AOC is for it, then I'm against it. It's powerful. Being against Palestinians becomes a way to own the liberals. (And that framing is mostly in the media, because a lot of Republican are against what's going on.)

It's why the uni party concept is important. It's not about suppressing the left, it's about neutralizing potential dissent on the right by making the topic politically toxic. The Israel lobby doesn't need every politician to be a passionate Zionist like Ted Cruz. They just need the people on the right to hate someone like AOC more than they care about questioning a multi trillion dollar foreign policy commitment that destabilizes the Middle East and makes America less safe.

Think about it, if you let AOC be a leader, it makes it easy for half of the country to dismiss the topic as just another thing to dismiss. (Though for this topic, the 50/50 divide is mainly a media narrative.)

AOC has no real power. It's all talk.

I've never watched the Oscars, I don't know who spoke out about anything and what they said, can only wait and see what happens to their career. If some actors spoke out, it doesn't mean that the system is not in place. It's not mind control, it's cause and consequences. Like in the MSM, if a news person doesn't say the right things, likes Trump, then they simply don't get promoted. And that's extremely effective, like evolution.

[Baller234]

By letting people like AOC and as a face of Israel criticism, it taints it for people on the right. If AOC supports Palestinians, then the topic is no longer about whatever is going on there, it just becomes another culture war. It's triggering. If AOC is for it, then I'm against it. It's powerful. Being against Palestinians becomes a way to own the liberals. (And that framing is mostly in the media, because a lot of Republican are against what's going on.)

It's why the uni party concept is important. It's not about suppressing the left, it's about neutralizing potential dissent on the right by making the topic politically toxic. The Israel lobby doesn't need every politician to be a passionate Zionist like Ted Cruz. They just need the people on the right to hate someone like AOC more than they care about questioning a multi trillion dollar foreign policy commitment that destabilizes the Middle East and makes America less safe.

Think about it, if you let AOC be a leader, it makes it easy for half of the country to dismiss the topic as just another thing to dismiss. (Though for this topic, the 50/50 divide is mainly a media narrative.)

AOC has no real power. It's all talk.

I've never watched the Oscars, I don't know who spoke out about anything and what they said, can only wait and see what happens to their career. If some actors spoke out, it doesn't mean that the system is not in place. It's not mind control, it's cause and consequences. Like in the MSM, if a news person doesn't say the right things, likes Trump, then they simply don't get promoted. And that's extremely effective, like evolution.

It definitely isn't taboo to show your support for Palestine in Hollywood right now. Quite the opposite actually. If there is a zionist plot to quell dissension, they're doing an awfully bad job.

Also, what do the zionists in control of the media have to gain by promoting AOC and promoting anti-zionist views? If they wield that type of power and influence, why wouldn't they cut people like AOC off at the knees? Why have they allowed her to become one of the loudest voices in politics? Why do these zionist owned networks give her so much positive media attention? If their goal was to attach someone unlikable to the other side's cause, wouldn't they cast someone far less attractive and charismatic in that role? Someone that alienates people on the right AND the left?

Right now you can arguably make the case that the most influential person in left wing punditry is Jon Stewart. If he's not #1 he's close to the top. He is a jew and his show airs on a jewish owned network. Guess what, he criticizes Israel.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I tend to trust Bill Cooper when it comes to these types of subjects... but I'm not so sure he got this one right.

If these Ancient Mystery schools have Kabbalah as a foundation... then Jews would be the main culprit.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah

According to Kabbalistic belief, early kabbalistic knowledge was transmitted orally by the Patriarchs, prophets, and sages, eventually to be "interwoven" into Jewish religious writings and culture.[25] According to this view, early kabbalah was, in around the 10th century BCE, an open knowledge practiced by over a million people in ancient Israel.[26][27] Foreign conquests drove the Jewish spiritual leadership of the time (the Sanhedrin) to hide the knowledge and make it secret, fearing that it might be misused if it fell into the wrong hands.[28]

Among problems considered in the Hebrew Kabbalah is the theological issue of the nature and origin of evil. In the views of some Kabbalists this conceives "evil" as a "quality of God", asserting that negativity enters into the essence of the Absolute. In this view it is conceived that the Absolute needs evil to "be what it is", i.e., to exist.[49] Foundational texts of Medieval Kabbalism conceived evil as a demonic parallel to the holy, called the Sitra Achra (the "Other Side"), and the qlippoth (the "shells/husks") that cover and conceal the holy, are nurtured from it, and yet also protect it by limiting its revelation. Scholem termed this element of the Spanish Kabbalah a "Jewish gnostic" motif, in the sense of dual powers in the divine realm of manifestation.

[jstern]

It definitely isn't taboo to show your support for Palestine in Hollywood right now. Quite the opposite actually. If there is a zionist plot to quell dissension, they're doing an awfully bad job.

Also, what do the zionists in control of the media have to gain by promoting AOC and promoting anti-zionist views? If they wield that type of power and influence, why wouldn't they cut people like AOC off at the knees? Why have they allowed her to become one of the loudest voices in politics? Why do these zionist owned networks give her so much positive media attention? If their goal was to attach someone unlikable to the other side's cause, wouldn't they cast someone far less attractive and charismatic in that role? Someone that alienates people on the right AND the left?

Right now you can arguably make the case that the most influential person in left wing punditry is Jon Stewart. If he's not #1 he's close to the top. He is a jew and his show airs on a jewish owned network. Guess what, he criticizes Israel.

I don't know much about John Stewart. I already mentioned what I said about AOC.

From your previous comment you already know that reproductions is a valid concept, why wouldn't it be now? Why would it end. The logic seems to be, if they don't control the narrative 100%, then it's not true.

The point isn't that a Zionist plot is trying to silence every single person. Their goal is to prevent a broad, both party coalition from forming that could actually threaten their goals.

This is where someone like AOC is more useful than a threat. Because she's the perfect person to make criticism of Israel politically radioactive to the right. By making her the face of the pro Palestine movement, the establishment guarantees that a huge chunk of the country will instinctively take the opposite position just to own the libs. The issue stops being about foreign policy, dead civilians, or billions of our tax dollars and becomes another front in the endless battle against "the Squad." Again, it's not about having 100% of the people "In line."

AOC has no real power to stop the flow of money or weapons. Her role is to be a pressure valve. She gives the left a voice, making them feel represented and heard, while the actual policy of funding and arming continues completely uninterrupted. It's a managed opposition that gives the illusion of a debate while the outcome is never in doubt.

Early on, I said that there's not going to be an Israel in like 50 years, because this system is unsustainable. They can't control every person, thus they can't fully control the narrative. But you're saying that my previous comment is incorrect, or doesn't make sense, because not every single person follows the line. That would be too expensive. It could work perfectly pre social media era, it even worked perfectly before October 7, but the mixture of the internet AND Gaza which shocks the average person, even if you might not see why, makes things different.

[TheMan]

Okay since we're being honest, tell me which empire you hope replaces us.

Doesn't really matter as long as it ain't us but it's gonna be China.

They're are a superpower and haven't toppled any democratically elected leaders and replaced them with oppressive puppets, they're not starting wars all over the world nor have they ever dropped a nuke. They will replace us soon, we have been a cancer on the world, far from the good guys Zionist Hollywood propaganda movies portrays us to be...all it takes is some critical thinking and honesty. I wish it weren't true but it is what it is...one clear example, Russia was the nation that through millions of death, sacrifice and sheer bravery, brought the Nazi war machine to it's knees yet we all think it was the Yankees, Hollywood propaganda. The atomic bombs were dropped on Japan not to spare hundreds of thousands of US military deaths but to intimidate the rest of the world. Open a history book and stop blindly believing Zionist pro US propaganda.

[Baller234]

Doesn't really matter as long as it ain't us but it's gonna be China.

They're are a superpower and haven't toppled any democratically elected leaders and replaced them with oppressive puppets, they're not starting wars all over the world nor have they ever dropped a nuke. They will replace us soon, we have been a cancer on the world, far from the good guys Zionist Hollywood propaganda movies portrays us to be...all it takes is some critical thinking and honesty. I wish it weren't true but it is what it is...one clear example, Russia was the nation that through millions of death, sacrifice and sheer bravery, brought the Nazi war machine to it's knees yet we all think it was the Yankees, Hollywood propaganda. The atomic bombs were dropped on Japan not to spare hundreds of thousands of US military deaths but to intimidate the rest of the world. Open a history book and stop blindly believing Zionist pro US propaganda.

Have you ever considered moving to China?

Have you seen the advances in AI translation? With ChatGPT audio you can have a live conversation with someone in a different language now. I use it for work all the time. It's really incredible. You would be able to adapt pretty well I think. Plus I'm sure the people there are so kind and generous.

[Baller234]

I don't know much about John Stewart. I already mentioned what I said about AOC.

From your previous comment you already know that reproductions is a valid concept, why wouldn't it be now? Why would it end. The logic seems to be, if they don't control the narrative 100%, then it's not true.

The point isn't that a Zionist plot is trying to silence every single person. Their goal is to prevent a broad, both party coalition from forming that could actually threaten their goals.

This is where someone like AOC is more useful than a threat. Because she's the perfect person to make criticism of Israel politically radioactive to the right. By making her the face of the pro Palestine movement, the establishment guarantees that a huge chunk of the country will instinctively take the opposite position just to own the libs. The issue stops being about foreign policy, dead civilians, or billions of our tax dollars and becomes another front in the endless battle against "the Squad." Again, it's not about having 100% of the people "In line."

AOC has no real power to stop the flow of money or weapons. Her role is to be a pressure valve. She gives the left a voice, making them feel represented and heard, while the actual policy of funding and arming continues completely uninterrupted. It's a managed opposition that gives the illusion of a debate while the outcome is never in doubt.

Early on, I said that there's not going to be an Israel in like 50 years, because this system is unsustainable. They can't control every person, thus they can't fully control the narrative. But you're saying that my previous comment is incorrect, or doesn't make sense, because not every single person follows the line. That would be too expensive. It could work perfectly pre social media era, it even worked perfectly before October 7, but the mixture of the internet AND Gaza which shocks the average person, even if you might not see why, makes things different.

Jstern, my guy. Are you okay???

Can the jews predict the future as well? Do they have microchips in our brains too? What is this Star Wars? Is Netanyahu a sith lord? We already had one user in this thread accuse him of being a sorcerer. Now you're saying the jews have the power to orchestrate the feelings and emotions of everyone on the planet.

Your point about AOC is just crazy. By that same logic, casting AOC in that role makes criticism of Israel hip and cool to the left. Wtf is there to gain from that? What do the evil zionists have to gain by indoctrinating and teaching half the country to think negatively of Israel? Are you saying that Bernie and AOC are bought and paid for or are you saying this is 9D chess???

Jews are NOT super powered wizards.

[Doomsday Dallas]

[jstern]

Jstern, my guy. Are you okay???

Can the jews predict the future as well? Do they have microchips in our brains too? What is this Star Wars? Is Netanyahu a sith lord? We already had one user in this thread accuse him of being a sorcerer. Now you're saying the jews have the power to orchestrate the feelings and emotions of everyone on the planet.

Your point about AOC is just crazy. By that same logic, casting AOC in that role makes criticism of Israel hip and cool to the left. Wtf is there to gain from that? What do the evil zionists have to gain by indoctrinating and teaching half the country to think negatively of Israel? Are you saying that Bernie and AOC are bought and paid for or are you saying this is 9D chess???

Jews are NOT super powered wizards.

I think you misread my post. I literally said the opposite. I said that "they CAN'T control everyone," which is why the system is unsustainable long term. I said that they cannot control everyone, as in what everyone says, the whole world, which is why you don't have, say for example, 100% of celebrities backing Israel. Or 100% of the politicians. And that someone like AOC, who's a scumbag politician, whether on purpose or not helps polarize the issue along partisan line, so that the average person on the right, who like most people work all the day long and don't really follow complicated topics in detail, or have the interest, can just go along with whatever is the opposite of what she says.

Unsustainable, due to the fact that the Zionist cannot control everyone.

Also, Jews and Zionists are not the same thing. For example, Patrick Chewing is a Zionist, but he's not Jewish. And there are many Jewish people who are not Zionists.

[Doomsday Dallas]

[TheMan]

Have you ever considered moving to China?

Have you seen the advances in AI translation? With ChatGPT audio you can have a live conversation with someone in a different language now. I use it for work all the time. It's really incredible. You would be able to adapt pretty well I think. Plus I'm sure the people there are so kind and generous.

I'll move to China when you move to Israel

[warriorfan]

I'll move to China when you move to Israel

You have been melting down literally all day

Give it a rest muchacho.