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Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
 Originally Posted by Doomsday Dallas
Is this about Trump? or is this about Israel?
No, Trump can't do whatever he wishes because he's in his final term...
Your basically saying that propaganda isn't needed now that Trump is in his final 4 years... as if he's the one in need of propaganda.
There you go.... now you're starting to think.
You make a good point.... the Epstein drama did get lost in the fire.
So if the No Kings never happened all this Iran war stuff would be different? 
Propaganda isn't needed like it used to be. And when it is needed, it's usually for a vote. The WW2 era is long gone, where Hitler and Stalin and Roosevelt needed mass propaganda to convince troops to give their lives for a cause. We don't need enormous mass units of infantry like that any more. We just bomb shit to hell and then maybe send in some guys to stand guard, but I don't think we are even doing that here.
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Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
The Epstein stuff did get lost, I doubt purposefully. I mean, we are humans, it is hard to give all the major issues equal amounts of attention. War broke out, are we supposed to just ignore that and keep the focus on Epstein? Should we give one issue 60% attention and the other 40%?
I think that mostly, what our brains are focused on, or are not focused on, means little to them. Unless they need us to vote them in office, then they care deeply what we think.
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2011
Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
 Originally Posted by Off the Court
Propaganda isn't needed like it used to be. And when it is needed, it's usually for a vote. The WW2 era is long gone, where Hitler and Stalin and Roosevelt needed mass propaganda to convince troops to give their lives for a cause.
actually... it got much worse in the 50's & 60's... propaganda is basically psychological warfare. It doesn't have to be legal.
COINTELPRO (a syllabic abbreviation derived from Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert and illegal[1][2][3] projects conducted between 1956 and 1971 by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting American political organizations that the FBI perceived as subversive.[4][5][6][7] Groups and individuals targeted by the FBI included feminist organizations,[8][9] the Communist Party USA,[10] anti-Vietnam War organizers, activists in the civil rights and Black power movements (e.g., Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, and the Black Panther Party), environmentalist and animal rights organizations, the American Indian Movement (AIM), Chicano and Mexican-American groups like the Brown Berets and the United Farm Workers, and independence movements (including Puerto Rican independence groups, such as the Young Lords and the Puerto Rican Socialist Party). Although the program primarily focused on organizations that were part of the broader New Left, they also targeted white supremacist groups, such as the Ku Klux Klan[11][12] and the National States' Rights Party.[13]
The FBI engaged in covert operations targeting domestic political groups from its earliest years. Covert operations under the official COINTELPRO label took place between 1956 and 1971. However, the official chronology of the program is the subject of debate. According to a senate investigation, "If COINTELPRO had been a short-lived aberration, the thorny problems of motivation, techniques, and control presented might be safely relegated to history. However, COINTELPRO existed for years on an 'ad hoc basis before the formal programs were instituted, and more significantly, COINTELPRO-type activities may continue today under the rubric of 'investigation."[14] Many of the tactics used in COINTELPRO are alleged to have seen continued use, including discrediting targets through psychological warfare; smearing individuals and groups using forged documents and by planting false reports in the media; harassment; wrongful imprisonment; illegal violence; and assassination.[15][16][17][18] According to a Senate report, the FBI's motivation was "protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order".[14]
It is rumored that Charles Manson was used as a propaganda force to help end the hippie movement. But that's crazy to suggest right?
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Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
That is the US Gov trying to diffuse political movements. Not create them. Which is the opposite of what you are suggesting with No Kings. I don't know anything about the Manson stuff, did they need a vote though? What was the motive to make hippies go away?
That is akin to Trump smearing "woke" IMO
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2011
Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
 Originally Posted by Off the Court
That is the US Gov trying to diffuse political movements. Not create them. Which is the opposite of what you are suggesting with No Kings.
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Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
 Originally Posted by Doomsday Dallas
No Kings would be like creating a hippie movement, the opposite of destroying it. And you are suggesting that No Kings was created to distract us all from the Israel and Iran war right? Or do you even know what you are suggesting beyond just conspiracies are happening? What do you think that No Kings ultimately accomplished for the US Gov?
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2011
Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
 Originally Posted by Off the Court
No Kings would be like creating a hippie movement, the opposite of destroying it. And you are suggesting that No Kings was created to distract us all from the Israel and Iran war right? Or do you even know what you are suggesting beyond just conspiracies are happening? What do you think that No Kings ultimately accomplished for the US Gov?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_Greenberg
Greenberg was raised in Chevy Chase, Maryland. She is Jewish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Levin
Levin grew up in Buda, Texas. He is Jewish.
How convenient.
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Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
So a group of Jews who are backed by George Soros ($7.6M really not much money) started No Kings to distract the American people from Israel? And that accomplished what? Like what did they ultimately get out of it?
If No Kings had never happened, how would any of this be different?
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Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
No Kings was primarily fueled from everyone seeing their coworker being deported because they didn't re-up their work visa. And small business owners seeing ICE taking their work force away.
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06-24-2025, 04:48 PM
#100
2011
Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
 Originally Posted by Off the Court
Distraction for a week? I mean, what do they gain from that?
What happened in that week?
It was Israel launching an attack for a full week up until it became America's problem.
Now who are we protesting? It's definitely not Israel or the Jews... It's now a protest against America for launching an attack against Iran.
Yes, instead of libtards creating a million tic toc / youtube videos and tweets... voicing their opinions about how evil Israel is.... they were focused on ICE. HEAVILY focused on ICE. Nationwide protest focused.
a week later.... Now it's shifted back to America and it's attack on Iran.
SO once again.... it's shame on Trump instead of shame on Israel.... and if weren't for No Kings, there's no telling how many liberals would be shouting death Israel instead of death to ICE.
Israel declaring war on Iran is a pretty f*cking big deal given the circumstances with Palestinians here lately. Yes, a distraction was needed to contain Israeli resentment from the Left.
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06-24-2025, 05:21 PM
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College star
Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
 Originally Posted by Doomsday Dallas
What happened in that week?
It was Israel launching an attack for a full week up until it became America's problem.
Now who are we protesting? It's definitely not Israel or the Jews... It's now a protest against America for launching an attack against Iran.
Yes, instead of libtards creating a million tic toc / youtube videos and tweets... voicing their opinions about how evil Israel is.... they were focused on ICE. HEAVILY focused on ICE. Nationwide protest focused.
a week later.... Now it's shifted back to America and it's attack on Iran.
SO once again.... it's shame on Trump instead of shame on Israel.... and if weren't for No Kings, there's no telling how many liberals would be shouting death Israel instead of death to ICE.
Israel declaring war on Iran is a pretty f*cking big deal given the circumstances with Palestinians here lately. Yes, a distraction was needed to contain Israeli resentment from the Left.
So that's it? The entire difference is "liberals shouting"? 
They don't give a shit about that.
https://defence-blog.com/trump-gives...nuclear-talks/
"Trump has given Iran a 60-day deadline to demonstrate progress in nuclear negotiations or face potential military consequences"
that is from April
Trump gave them 60 days, or face military action. He was going to do it no matter how hard, and how many, liberals shouted about it.
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06-24-2025, 06:20 PM
#102
2011
Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
 Originally Posted by Off the Court
So that's it? The entire difference is "liberals shouting"?
They don't give a shit about that.
https://defence-blog.com/trump-gives...nuclear-talks/
"Trump has given Iran a 60-day deadline to demonstrate progress in nuclear negotiations or face potential military consequences"
that is from April
Trump gave them 60 days, or face military action. He was going to do it no matter how hard, and how many, liberals shouted about it.
Again you're making it about Trump.... This is about Israel.
either way.... an event titled "No Kings" organized by Jews is rather comical.... They get offended whenever Jesus is declared King of Jews.... so "No Kings" is fitting.
If you don't think there a propaganda war in place in regards to how Israel is perceived in the West... that's your prerogative
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06-24-2025, 06:47 PM
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College star
Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
I think she is talking about a propaganda war between Israel and Iran, and the populations there. Not society in the US, because she also says the US is in bed with Israel and this war was going to happen no matter what because "what Bibi Netanyahu wants Bibi Netanyahu gets".
And I wasn't making it about Trump, I was showing you that he had planned on this a long time ago. And it didn't matter what liberals think.
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06-24-2025, 07:28 PM
#104
2011
Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
 Originally Posted by Off the Court
I think she is talking about a propaganda war between Israel and Iran, and the populations there. Not society in the US, because she also says the US is in bed with Israel and this war was going to happen no matter what because "what Bibi Netanyahu wants Bibi Netanyahu gets".
And I wasn't making it about Trump, I was showing you that he had planned on this a long time ago. And it didn't matter what liberals think.
"what Bibi Netanyahu wants Bibi Netanyahu gets" thorough means of propaganda.
while it may not matter what liberals think of Trump, it does matter what liberals think of Israel....
Bush had 9/11 and still had to have his administration lie their asses off about WMD's in Iraq to justify an invasion.
You can't just disregard public opinion and do whatever the f*ck you want.
Everything can get exposed years down the road...and then nobody will give a f*ck.... but as the events are unfolding, a propaganda force is needed to justify your actions.
TheMan just posted a piece of CNN propaganda. It's hilarious what Van Jones is saying.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...f-tricks-again
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06-24-2025, 09:43 PM
#105
I've got Jew babe
Re: No Kings Nationwide Protest June 14 Everywhere in AMERICA
 Originally Posted by Off the Court
No Kings was primarily fueled from everyone seeing their coworker being deported because they didn't re-up their work visa. And small business owners seeing ICE taking their work force away.
Everyone in that protest is paid to be part of that protest. Everyday Americans don't give a shit about someone being deported. These are all paid actors out there.
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