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07-04-2025, 05:52 PM
#136
NBA Legend
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
I remember they were neck and neck, KD and Steph," Young recalled on a recent episode of "Gil's Arena," featuring host Gilbert Arenas. "And then Steph had one bad game and KD was hitting. [In the] locker room, Steph's head was down, damn near in tears -- after a win.
"He wanted to win that [award]. KD was trying to give it to him. KD had won it the year before so he was trying to give it to him. But Steph couldn't make a shot. He had like the lowest he's scored in the Finals. But it was a sweep."
https://x.com/GilsArenaShow/status/1...111941171?s=19
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07-04-2025, 06:00 PM
#137
College superstar
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
 Originally Posted by LAL
Sure bro tim duncan didn't need help from
Parker Manu or Kawhi and he could've averaged
35 past his prime but didn't want to. Great
eye compared to us sportscenter hightlight watchers.
If I missed a Spurs' game, looked at the box score and Duncan had more than 20/10, I knew that he had to step it up because his teammates were sucking that night. TD didn't care about scoring - he cared about winning. All great players need help, and he had the patience to WAIT a long time for Manu, Parker and Kawhi (all so raw) to mature.
His was a career of sustained excellence (sans 2011 when he had plantar fasciitis and suffering from Pop's fascination with Bonner/Blair). Plus hearing that Richard Jefferson commentate the entire NBA Finals reminded me of those "lost" drought years, but TD stuck it out and was rewarded with the icing on the cake - a beautiful 2014 Finals.
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07-04-2025, 09:09 PM
#138
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
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07-05-2025, 08:29 AM
#139
College superstar
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
 Originally Posted by warriorfan
You are the only guy I know with an IQ lower than Nick Young. 
LOL - since I'm not a guy and you obviously don't know me, it's questionable what you know about my IQ.
My apologies, Warriorfan. Blame it on old eyes - bleary in the morning.
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07-05-2025, 10:19 AM
#140
ISH's Negro Historian
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
Penny Hardaways peak is overrated. I'm supposed to get excited over 20/7/4 over 2 seasons.
Maurice Stokes career and tragedy should get mentioned more often.
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07-05-2025, 11:32 AM
#141
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
 Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Gobert, bum, cotm, sloan, stockton... you all know 
So what is your actual take?
Anyways
2017 Cavs are the best offensive team in NBA history and would beat 90% of teams that won a championship they got unlucky and ran into the greatest team of all time
Curry deserved finals MVP in both 2015 & 2017
The top Euro league teams can beat the top NBA teams in a 7 game series
Last edited by Manny98; 07-05-2025 at 11:42 AM.
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07-05-2025, 11:34 AM
#142
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
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07-05-2025, 12:26 PM
#143
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
 Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
I'll start.
- Shawn Kemp was the best defender on the '96 Sonics, even over Gary Payton who won DPOY that season.
Best player on those Sonics teams as well.
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07-05-2025, 12:42 PM
#144
Good High School Starter
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
 Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
Penny Hardaways peak is overrated. I'm supposed to get excited over 20/7/4 over 2 seasons.
20pts was a lot for anyone back then, almost unheard of for a PG. Plus the way he orchestrated that team and the athleticism was off the chart. A complete unicorn.
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07-05-2025, 01:31 PM
#145
NBA Superstar
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
Basketball fans are the most inconsistent in their line of reasoning when it comes to their logic about how they perceive players. 90-95 percent debate like a female would.
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07-05-2025, 01:39 PM
#146
ISH's Negro Historian
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
 Originally Posted by Nowoco
20pts was a lot for anyone back then, almost unheard of for a PG. Plus the way he orchestrated that team and the athleticism was off the chart. A complete unicorn.
Tim Hardaway avg 23 and 11 and couldn't dunk.
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07-05-2025, 03:06 PM
#147
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
 Originally Posted by rmt
LOL - since I'm not a guy and you obviously don't know me, it's questionable what you know about my IQ.
My apologies, Warriorfan. Blame it on old eyes - bleary in the morning.
Was posting at Hey Yo, not you
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07-05-2025, 04:56 PM
#148
Good High School Starter
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
 Originally Posted by L.Kizzle
Tim Hardaway avg 23 and 11 and couldn't dunk.
Taking a lot more shots and with less efficiency. Run TMC may as well have had Mike D'Antoni coaching them.
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07-05-2025, 05:33 PM
#149
ISH's Negro Historian
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
 Originally Posted by Nowoco
Taking a lot more shots and with less efficiency. Run TMC may as well have had Mike D'Antoni coaching them.
46 % ain't that bad when shooting five 3's in like 1991. Unheard of back then lol.
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07-05-2025, 05:37 PM
#150
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?
 Originally Posted by Nowoco
Taking a lot more shots and with less efficiency. Run TMC may as well have had Mike D'Antoni coaching them.
Timmy was a beast and had the best non carry crossover.
Funniest thing about this I think it was a preseason game. He was a competitor in every sense of the word and that goes along way.
Last edited by warriorfan; 07-05-2025 at 05:43 PM.
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