so where are the epstein files?

[ZenMaster]

Earlier I said it is no longer a question of if Trump did anything, it is now a question of weather or not his base cares. And most of them do not care. They know Trump f@#ked a child, but they will still defend him to the death.



Pam Bondi originally said the entire reason it's all been taking so long is because there is a ton of video footage, and a lot of it is very graphic. And they don't want to throw stuff out that could damage the lives of the young women that were more or less sex slaves. And with that said, they probably came across video footage of Trump.

SEEING is a really huge difference for most. If George Floyds death wasn't on video, the riots don't happen. And if they released Trump having sex with a minor? That would be the straw that finally breaks the camel's back for most.

If you want people to believe your conspiracy theory, you need to explain some of the holes that doesn't make sense.

You claim Trump slept or raped a child on the island and that Epstein filmed it. So this happened between 1998 and 2005ish and Epstein has sat on the recording for at least 20 years. While no one who sued Epstein has claimed Trump was ever on Epstein island, he isn't in the flight logs, Epstein himself has never claimed Trump to ever be on the island either, but assuming what you say is true or it happened somewhere else, what was his motivation for filming Trump doing this? He didn't use it to prevent being arrested when Trump was president last time, so what do you think he used it for? They weren't friendly any longer and hadn't been so for 10 years when Trump first ran for President.

But OK, he doesn't use this video to prevent being arrested, but there's a copy of it and it's taken possession of by the FBI where it never leaks, it's not deleted in 2019 either because we know Bondi is looking at it 2025.
A big question: If Merrick Garland and Joe Biden has had access to this footage between 2020-2024, why and how was Trump allowed to run for and become President again? How is the footage of him having sex with a child not used to prevent that from happening in one way or another?

So now, Pam Bondi has the most powerful piece of video in the world, which she told Elon about some weeks ago but she's just deleting it. Or do you assume she has other video as well, so now Trump has gotten the one video of him and now he holds video of a bunch of other important people that he can use to blackmail?

[Lakers Legend#32]

Here's the difference.

If Clinton's name is on that list, his base would reject him.

If Trump's name is on that list, the MAGAS would reject the findings.

[Off the Court]

If you want people to believe your conspiracy theory, you need to explain some of the holes that doesn't make sense.

You claim Trump slept or raped a child on the island and that Epstein filmed it. So this happened between 1998 and 2005ish and Epstein has sat on the recording for at least 20 years. While no one who sued Epstein has claimed Trump was ever on Epstein island, he isn't in the flight logs, Epstein himself has never claimed Trump to ever be on the island either, but assuming what you say is true or it happened somewhere else, what was his motivation for filming Trump doing this? He didn't use it to prevent being arrested when Trump was president last time, so what do you think he used it for? They weren't friendly any longer and hadn't been so for 10 years when Trump first ran for President.

But OK, he doesn't use this video to prevent being arrested, but there's a copy of it and it's taken possession of by the FBI where it never leaks, it's not deleted in 2019 either because we know Bondi is looking at it 2025.
A big question: If Merrick Garland and Joe Biden has had access to this footage between 2020-2024, why and how was Trump allowed to run for and become President again? How is the footage of him having sex with a child not used to prevent that from happening in one way or another?

So now, Pam Bondi has the most powerful piece of video in the world, which she told Elon about some weeks ago but she's just deleting it. Or do you assume she has other video as well, so now Trump has gotten the one video of him and now he holds video of a bunch of other important people that he can use to blackmail?

We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.

The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.

I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.

[Patrick Chewing]

IDK, maybe cause Clinton on there. Maybe because they were not in his control. Maybe they didn't care to. Trump is the one that has to appease his conspiracy crowd following with Epstein and JFK and MLK and everything else. That is why he focused on that and promised their release. The Biden admin never put focused on any those things. No POTUS has until Trump.

If Trump was on that list and Christopher Wray had it in his hands, you know damn well they would have used it to bury Trump.


But they didn't.

[highwhey]

I don't think Trump has that kind of dirt on him.... he's the one collecting dirt.

you have it in your mind that Trump went to the island like it was Diddy party and got lubed up with a bunch young girls.

It's the opposite... he has dirt on people that got involved with minors... and has leverage on them... thus obtaining the power he has.



Does Israel have dirt on Trump? 100%.... but I don't think it's child porn.

so what you're saying is you have schizophrenia?

[Baller234]

Here's the difference.

If Clinton's name is on that list, his base would reject him.

If Trump's name is on that list, the MAGAS would reject the findings.

We can prove this is a lie because the Epstein speculation has been going on for 6 years yet you guys only took interest in this stuff 15 minutes ago.

You're only interested now because it appears Trump is also in on the coverup, but before that you guys were perfectly willing to let it all slide.

You're not fooling anyone.

[Baller234]

We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.

The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.

I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.

Obviously Biden and the democrats were all in on the coverup and went out of their way to sweep it under the rug, the same as Trump is doing right now. Yet when the dems were the ones covering it up, you didn't mind.

Don't say "Biden isn't the president" because he WAS the president for 4 years and you said nothing. The only thing that's changed is that now you smell blood and you have a chance to throw Trump under the bus too.

So don't act like you're acting out of some superior moral principle. As usual it always boils down to your chronic TDS.

[highwhey]

doomsdaydallas: clearly trump was just visiting epstein island to find out if the rumors were true, he did not engage in any activities.

[ZenMaster]

We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.

The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.

I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.

So when Trump ran for President in 2016, Obama had already had access to video of him raping a child for 8 years, but didn't figure to use it to blackmail Trump not to run? And Obama didn't want to put Trump in jail for it either, because there's video of Clinton doing the same and too many people knew about it all happening.
And then it's been sitting on a HD in a box at some FBI office for 17 years until it's collected for Pam Bondi who tells Elon Musk about the video.

No, it doesn't sound likely at all.

[Baller234]

HIGHwhey getting fooled by obviously fake internet photos is definitely on brand for him.

[Off the Court]

So when Trump ran for President in 2016, Obama had already had access to video of him raping a child for 8 years, but didn't figure to use it to blackmail Trump not to run? And Obama didn't want to put Trump in jail for it either, because there's video of Clinton doing the same and too many people knew about it all happening.
And then it's been sitting on a HD in a box at some FBI office for 17 years until it's collected for Pam Bondi who tells Elon Musk about the video.

No, it doesn't sound likely at all.

I think Trump is listed as a client, and Bannon. I think Elon saw the list of clients and the notables. He has knowledge of it.

YOU are the one who posted Pam saying "there are tens of thousands of videos" and while obviously that could only be an exaggeration, I don't doubt there are probably "lots" of videos. Probably Hundreds, maybe like 1,000.

And I highly doubt that Pam or Elon actually watched any of that. In fact it is possible no one has. It is possible Epstein handed over a list, and all the footage, and the FBI and said "here is all the video, and the names of the people in the videos" and that was that.

I don't think Obama or Biden or any Admin has direct knowledge of it. It's not like when a POTUS is elected the FBI approaches them with every single thing that have. I think that the Trump admin approached THEM about it, and forced access, which is something the other admins didn't care to do.

[Off the Court]

I'll say this too, if Elon Musk is in fact spreading fake news? Lying to the population? Defamation of the POTUS? He needs to be thrown in prison.

To do that after all his free speech talk? After all he has said about MSM being harmful? And then to go and do the same thing only 100x worse? I mean CNN has never come out and said "Trump IS FOR FACT on the Epstein list".

He would be showing all of us exactly why the internet needs moderation.

[warriorfan]

We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.

The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.

I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.

Tinfoil hat level schizophrenic rantings

[Doomsday Dallas]

doomsdaydallas: clearly trump was just visiting epstein island to find out if the rumors were true, he did not engage in any activities.

That's interesting...... but what does this have to do with the fact that you weigh 400lbs?

[warriorfan]

That's interesting...... but what does this have to do with the fact that you weigh 400lbs?