Hoops Hype top 79 Greatest Players in NBA History list.

[warriorfan]

Durant too high; he should be below Curry. Duncan too low. O'Neal should be above Kobe.

This

and obviously lbj and jordan

[bison]

Right off the bat, they immediately tell you that the list is a joke. No need to further scroll down.

My thoughts exactly.

[John8204]

Sam Jones, Hal Greer and Dave Bing should probably be over Pistol and Earl Monroe. They didn't even make the list.

Maravich was the top SG for like 5 years in the league so I would have him in my top fifty even if he didn't have team success. Bing only makes these lists because of all the good he did for the guys post career. Jones and Greer should belong over Monroe

[fsvr54]

Lebron being first invalidates the list. He should be 6th or 7th. KD is too high and Giannis, zero ball skills, is WAYYY too high

[1987_Lakers]

Few observations, more so in the 30-79 spots

Lillard over Walt Frazier is a joke

Worthy over guys like Carmelo, Pierce, McHale, McAdoo seems wrong

Dwight Howard should be ranked ahead of Parish & Gasol

If Rodman is on the list, so should Draymond

Would knock down Iverson a few spots

But overall, not a bad list compared to others.

I feel like Iverson, Lillard, & Worthy were rated way too high.

Walt Frazier & Dwight should move up some spots.

[Phoenix]

Is it me, or has Magic started creeping up into top 4 on more of these lists recently? Seems like a decade or so ago he was more like 6-7th. I also feel like there aren't 3 spots between Magic and Bird. Many( myself included) feel Bird was the better peak performer, Magic mostly overtaking him after Larry's back injury in 88. Or they use the finals record as a tie-breaker in Magic's favor. I don't know...it just feels wrong to have them separated by 3 spots regardless of who you rank higher. They're too intrinsically tied to each other's careers for their rankings to not be neck and neck ( if Bird is 7th than Magic is 6th).

[Baller234]

Is it me, or has Magic started creeping up into top 4 on more of these lists recently? Seems like a decade or so ago he was more like 6-7th. I also feel like there aren't 3 spots between Magic and Bird. Many( myself included) feel Bird was the better peak performer, Magic mostly overtaking him after Larry's back injury in 88. Or they use the finals record as a tie-breaker in Magic's favor. I don't know...it just feels wrong to have them separated by 3 spots regardless of who you rank higher. They're too intrinsically tied to each other's careers for their rankings to not be neck and neck ( if Bird is 7th than Magic is 6th).

Agreed. I never understood the logic of the gaps either.

When it comes to Bird/Magic I would guess that around 70% of fans and experts have it as a coin flip with maybe 15% coming down on Bird and 15% coming down on Magic.

[sdot_thadon]

Is it me, or has Magic started creeping up into top 4 on more of these lists recently? Seems like a decade or so ago he was more like 6-7th. I also feel like there aren't 3 spots between Magic and Bird. Many( myself included) feel Bird was the better peak performer, Magic mostly overtaking him after Larry's back injury in 88. Or they use the finals record as a tie-breaker in Magic's favor. I don't know...it just feels wrong to have them separated by 3 spots regardless of who you rank higher. They're too intrinsically tied to each other's careers for their rankings to not be neck and neck ( if Bird is 7th than Magic is 6th).

Well honestly Magic and bird both were often in the 4-6 spots before this last generation pushed them out a bit to varying degrees. I think its just magic gaining some ground back. What's most intriguing to me is how guys general rankings can shuffle up and down the top 10 without having played in decades. Kinda pulls the curtain back on how often goalposts shift from era to era.

[Xiao Yao You]

Agreed. I never understood the logic of the gaps either.

When it comes to Bird/Magic I would guess that around 70% of fans and experts have it as a coin flip with maybe 15% coming down on Bird and 15% coming down on Magic.

I always tgought they were sumilar. Only o. Ish did i come to find vird was supposedly always better in everyones mind

[Phoenix]

Well honestly Magic and bird both were often in the 4-6 spots before this last generation pushed them out a bit to varying degrees. I think its just magic gaining some ground back. What's most intriguing to me is how guys general rankings can shuffle up and down the top 10 without having played in decades. Kinda pulls the curtain back on how often goalposts shift from era to era.

Yeah that's what I mean. I don't know how someone's ranking can go up decades after they've finishes playing. Granted, its also different groups of people doing these rankings so there's gonna be some variances. Case in point, some of the people who voted on the ESPN top 50 list in 2016 probably didn't vote on whenever they did the last list( around 2022 I think)? But it does seem like Magic had been taken out of top 4 for the most part, so it's really interesting seeing him trend up with what you'd assume to be newer( and younger voters) who didn't likely see him play in real-time. As time passes these things continue to get re-contextualized, but there seems to be a generally understand top 10. You'll have most still put MJ at the top, you'll have some putting Lebron there( like this list), and guys like Magic, Bird, Duncan, Shaq etc will swap places depending on what day of the week it is lol.

[Nowoco]

They're too intrinsically tied to each other's careers for their rankings to not be neck and neck ( if Bird is 7th than Magic is 6th).

Agree with this. Whether you have Magic over Bird, Bird over Magic or them 4th/5th or 7th/8th, they both have to be one after the other. No exceptions.

RE Shaq and Kobe. It makes no sense Kobe being ahead of Shaq. None. Even ignoring the fact that Shaq was the best player when they were on the same team, no-one, not one person anywhere who is being truthful with no agenda is taking Kobe over Shaq in an all-time draft.

[L.Kizzle]

Well honestly Magic and bird both were often in the 4-6 spots before this last generation pushed them out a bit to varying degrees. I think its just magic gaining some ground back. What's most intriguing to me is how guys general rankings can shuffle up and down the top 10 without having played in decades. Kinda pulls the curtain back on how often goalposts shift from era to era.

That would actually be Reggie Miller.
He's listed at number 54 greatest player of All-Time.
That basically means they think he was top 25 player, 25 year. They have him ranked higher than over half of the original NBA at 50 players list lol.
I'm sure in the next ten years he'll be entertaining the top 40 All-Time list. Congratulations on moving up without even playing lol.

[Reggie43]

That would actually be Reggie Miller.
He's listed at number 54 greatest player of All-Time.
That basically means they think he was top 25 player, 25 year. They have him ranked higher than over half of the original NBA at 50 players list lol.
I'm sure in the next ten years he'll be entertaining the top 40 All-Time list. Congratulations on moving up without even playing lol.

To be fair the original list came out in 96 and after that Miller added to his resume 4 Eastern Finals stints and even lead his team to the Finals in 2000.

I know he is ranked higher than he should be but so are a ton of other guys not just him.

[L.Kizzle]

To be fair the original list came out in 96 and after that Miller added to his resume 4 Eastern Finals stints and even lead his team to the Finals in 2000.

I know he is ranked higher than he should be but so are a ton of other guys not just him.

He hasn't surpassed anyone on the original list but they have him over Willis Reed and Walt Frazier and Sam Jones just to name a few.

[John8204]

Agree with this. Whether you have Magic over Bird, Bird over Magic or them 4th/5th or 7th/8th, they both have to be one after the other. No exceptions.

RE Shaq and Kobe. It makes no sense Kobe being ahead of Shaq. None. Even ignoring the fact that Shaq was the best player when they were on the same team, no-one, not one person anywhere who is being truthful with no agenda is taking Kobe over Shaq in an all-time draft.

I have Kobe, Duncan, Dirk and KG over "Shaq". Kobe is clearly the second best SG of all-time while Shaq is borderline top ten C. Shaq was a flop in the great center era he got swept more than any other great never averaged 30 PPG in a regular season and was a cancer to multiple teammates, coaches, and organizations. Shaq is a celebrity who made a lot of money on an image but as a player he definitely does not belong in a top ten and he's not in my top twenty.

And for me...it's Bird/Kareem/Magic at 4-5-6