Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?

[ShawkFactory]

A "family film" is supposed to be a movie that everyone in the family can enjoy. Mom, dad, brother, sister, grandma, grandpa. That's cool that your parents allowed you to watch Die Hard but that doesn't mean it was a family film. Those were rated-R movies not intended for children.

I just don't know why a filmmaker would take that kind of approach to this kind of film. There is not supposed to be anything "edgy" about Superman. He's classic coke. He's vanilla ice cream. That is what makes him great and that is his appeal. The cursing, the violence, the weirdness, combined with international politics, it just didn't feel very family friendly to me. I don't think children have the patience for this kind of movie. I didn't even have the patience. I was looking at the time 20 minutes in.

I'm not even sure what the "motto" of this movie was supposed to be, but if that is you're interpretation, "we all make mistakes"... that is very odd choice for a Superman movie. That to me sounds like someone who is trying to tear down Superman and not uplift him. That's not what the audience wants or expects from this character. He is supposed to be a beacon who inspires people to be the best version of themselves. We are supposed to see him doing extraordinary things and overcome impossible challenges. This Superman gets his ass kicked the ENTIRE movie.

James Gunn is a woke lefty weirdo. This is a guy who unironically believes in toxic masculinity so it's no surprise he doesn't believe in what Superman is supposed to be represent. That's why he has to tear him down. Look at how he even distorted his kryptonian family origin and made them out to be evil. FFS he doesn't even save Lois at any point in the movie. How tf do you make a Superman movie and not have him save Lois. Literally one of the core aspects of the character.

For the crime of making this movie and releasing it to the public, James Gunn should have to serve 72 hours in Luthor's pocket universe prison.

Dude…speak for yourself.

There is a reason Superman garners the least interest from a media standpoint of all of the major super hero’s, and it’s for the reasons you’ve stated. It’s boring..

It’s 2025. Who the hell wants to watch a vanilla ass Superman movie?

Taking chances and making it different was the ONLY way to approach this. And aside from extreme conservatives such as yourself, it seems Gunn pleased the crowd.

[Baller234]

Dude…speak for yourself.

There is a reason Superman garners the least interest from a media standpoint of all of the major super hero’s, and it’s for the reasons you’ve stated. It’s boring..

It’s 2025. Who the hell wants to watch a vanilla ass Superman movie?

Taking chances and making it different was the ONLY way to approach this. And aside from extreme conservatives such as yourself, it seems Gunn pleased the crowd.

You mean who still wants vanilla ice cream? Everyone actually. What kind of stupid question is this? Are you suggesting that since it's 2025 no one likes vanilla ice cream anymore?

How do you know it pleased the crowd? I actually just saw a report that said it grossed less than Man of Steel which came out 10 years ago and is on pace to do very poor internationally. The film itself might not even make money for the studio. The opening weekend figures seem okay enough but it's also an extremely well known brand with a lot of promotion. I'm guessing the word of mouth won't carry it.

But yea, not sure why you would want an "edgy" Superman. Every iteration of edgy Superman has crashed and burned.

[ShawkFactory]

You mean who still wants vanilla ice cream? Everyone actually. What kind of stupid question is this? Are you suggesting that since it's 2025 no one likes vanilla ice cream anymore?

How do you know it pleased the crowd? I actually just saw a report that said it grossed less than Man of Steel which came out 10 years ago and is on pace to do very poor internationally. The film itself might not even make money for the studio. The opening weekend figures seem okay enough but it's also an extremely well known brand with a lot of promotion. I'm guessing the word of mouth won't carry it.

But yea, not sure why you would want an "edgy" Superman. Every iteration of edgy Superman has crashed and burned.

No. I meant who wants a vanilla Superman movie. I don't "want" an edgy Superman. I just don't want it to be like it's always been because, again..it's boring.

Maybe you do, and that's cool. But you are objectively not in the majority.

[Baller234]

No. I meant who wants a vanilla Superman movie. I don't "want" an edgy Superman. I just don't want it to be like it's always been because, again..it's boring.

Maybe you do, and that's cool. But you are objectively not in the majority.

So your ideal version of Superman is a Superman who gets cucked the entire movie and proves that humans make mistakes?

[ShawkFactory]

So your ideal version of Superman is a Superman who gets cucked the entire movie and proves that humans make mistakes?

If that's how you want to interpret what I said then have at it. Unreal

[Baller234]

If that's how you want to interpret what I said then have at it. Unreal

You may want to check your response again, buddy.

I said audiences don't want a cucked Superman. You specifically bolded that part in my post and then proceeded to tell me that I should speak for myself.

[ShawkFactory]

You may want to check your response again, buddy.

I said audiences don't want a cucked Superman. You specifically bolded that part in my post and then proceeded to tell me that I should speak for myself.

Correct. You should.

Nowhere did I give my ideal Superman. Or anyone else's. I said that changing things up was a good move. You're caught up on the wrong things. Which is unsurprising.

[Baller234]

Correct. You should.

Nowhere did I give my ideal Superman. Or anyone else's. I said that changing things up was a good move. You're caught up on the wrong things. Which is unsurprising.

So you're grand thesis is that... "Hey maybe people do want a cucked Superman..."

Lol, so you want to deconstruct the character from the ground up and totally change what he's about... but then if someone dares to mention it you accuse them of focusing on the wrong things. So caring about how the character is being represented is focusing on the wrong things?

What can I say, enjoy your cucked out Superman. I'm sure you find it very relatable.

[ShawkFactory]

So you're grand thesis is that... "Hey maybe people do want a cucked Superman..."

Lol, so you want to deconstruct the character from the ground up and totally change what he's about... but then if someone dares to mention it you accuse them of focusing on the wrong things. So caring about how the character is being represented is focusing on the wrong things?

What can I say, enjoy your cucked out Superman. I'm sure you find it very relatable.

I feel like I'm being pretty clear in what I'm saying and you're still not seeming to get it at all. Oh well.

[Baller234]

I feel like I'm being pretty clear in what I'm saying and you're still not seeming to get it at all. Oh well.

Yea, you tried to insinuate I didn't like the movie because I'm an "extreme conservative". You're tripping over your words because you said something stupid and rushed to judgement without thinking.

[ShawkFactory]

Yea, you tried to insinuate I didn't like the movie because I'm an "extreme conservative". You're tripping over your words because you said something stupid and rushed to judgement without thinking.

Yea..quite the opposite. I said something very succinctly and VERY clearly and you are the one twisting things either because you're upset or lack basic comprehension skills.

When you include this in your post..

James Gunn is a woke lefty weirdo

..it's not hard to put two and two together.

But either way, it's all missing my point. All I said was that it is a good move to switch things up, and the reception to it (again..aside from a select few) bear that out.

[Baller234]

Yea..quite the opposite. I said something very succinctly and VERY clearly and you are the one twisting things either because you're upset or lack basic comprehension skills.

When you include this in your post..



..it's not hard to put two and two together.

But either way, it's all missing my point. All I said was that it is a good move to switch things up, and the reception to it (again..aside from a select few) bear that out.

James Gunn is a woke lefty weirdo though, I wasn't lying. If you disagree with what I said then feel free to set the record straight and provide facts that prove me wrong.

But don't be upset with what I said when it's the truth.

[ShawkFactory]

James Gunn is a woke lefty weirdo though, I wasn't lying. If you disagree with what I said then feel free to set the record straight and provide facts that prove me wrong.

But don't be upset with what I said when it's the truth.

So now you're trying to get me to argue that James Gunn isn't a woke lefty? Jesus you really have lost the plot

I'm not disagreeing with what you said on that specifically. I don't know a ton about the guy and don't care. It just shows where your head is at.

None of that addresses the actual point anyway..

[Baller234]

So now you're trying to get me to argue that James Gunn isn't a woke lefty? Jesus you really have lost the plot

I'm not disagreeing with what you said on that specifically. I don't know a ton about the guy and don't care. It just shows where your head is at.

None of that addresses the actual point anyway..

So why did you just blindly assume that my take on the film was political and off base? If you concede that the director of the film is a woke weirdo and he purposely set out to deconstruct and alter the perception of the character, what exactly is your problem with my reading of the film?

Why can't you just admit I raise a valid argument?

[ShawkFactory]

Omg for fvck's sake. Okay, how about this...

Dude…speak for yourself.

There is a reason Superman garners the least interest from a media standpoint of all of the major super hero’s, and it’s for the reasons you’ve stated. It’s boring..

It’s 2025. Who the hell wants to watch a vanilla ass Superman movie?

Taking chances and making it different was the ONLY way to approach this. And aside from a select few, it seems Gunn pleased the crowd.

My original post edited slightly to perhaps better keep you on track. That better?