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Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?
 Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
Omg for fvck's sake. Okay, how about this...
My original post edited slightly to perhaps better keep you on track. That better?
Lol okay but this is also false. Superman was far and away the most popular super hero. The only reason he lost momentum was because the movies kept on sucking.
The hype for Superman Returns was huge but of course that movie blew dick. The hype for Man of Steel was also huge but that movie also blew dick. This new movie was ANOTHER reboot after multiple failures and it's still having a decent opening weekend. That to me says there is still a strong demand for the character.
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Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?
 Originally Posted by Baller234
Lol okay but this is also false. Superman was far and away the most popular super hero. The only reason he lost momentum was because the movies kept on sucking.
The hype for Superman Returns was huge but of course that movie blew dick. The hype for Man of Steel was also huge but that movie also blew dick. This new movie was ANOTHER reboot after multiple failures and it's still having a decent opening weekend. That to me says there is still a strong demand for the character.
Superman is a popular super hero, sure. But I think it's pretty well-understood that the character as a whole is less interesting narratively than many of the others. Hence why it's more difficult to make a good movie out it.
This one seems to have hit the mark for most but none of the other ones have, as you said. Which is why it was a good idea to switch things up.
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Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?
Hey um so I think the confusion here stems from the fact that Shawk thinks Blacks are a super well integrated part of society, who arent any more criminal than other groups and have no problem behaviour/culture wise.
This kind of world view of course is very indoctrinated and NPC and leads to quick attempts to shut down any sort of acknowledgement of movies becoming culturally worse/weaker.
And to be specific,
 Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
So now you're trying to get me to argue that James Gunn isn't a woke lefty? Jesus you really have lost the plot 
no, but thats what your disagreement stemmed from, remember?
anyway ciao peeps theres many better movies to talk about
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Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?
 Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
Superman is a popular super hero, sure. But I think it's pretty well-understood that the character as a whole is less interesting narratively than many of the others. Hence why it's more difficult to make a good movie out it.
This one seems to have hit the mark for most but none of the other ones have, as you said. Which is why it was a good idea to switch things up.
I mean I respect that Supes isn't your favorite character, and you're entitled to that opinion, but I think you're just wrong. If he were "less interesting" then he wouldn't be the icon he currently is today. He's the highest selling comic character of all time by leaps and bounds. I understand a lot of that has to do with him being the first and the oldest but he only has one year on Batman and he's outsold Batman by like 150 million comics. So there's a 90 year history of compelling Superman stories to choose from. Even the Donner movies, while not perfect and kind of hammy in spots, are revered classics. The reason Superman is seeing diminishing returns is because WB keeps doing damage to the brand with these god awful movies.
I think Marvel did a decent enough job with the Captain America movies. He's a similar boy scout do good type character, but somehow he manages to come off cool and likable in those movies. Meanwhile WB keeps handing the reigns for Superman over to directors who are either gay, woke or retarded.
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Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?
 Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
Hey um so I think the confusion here stems from the fact that Shawk thinks Blacks are a super well integrated part of society, who arent any more criminal than other groups and have no problem behaviour/culture wise.
This kind of world view of course is very indoctrinated and NPC and leads to quick attempts to shut down any sort of acknowledgement of movies becoming culturally worse/weaker.
And to be specific,
no, but thats what your disagreement stemmed from, remember?
anyway ciao peeps theres many better movies to talk about
No, it isn't.
Piss off dude
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Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?
 Originally Posted by Baller234
I mean I respect that Supes isn't your favorite character, and you're entitled to that opinion, but I think you're just wrong. If he were "less interesting" then he wouldn't be the icon he currently is today. He's the highest selling comic character of all time by leaps and bounds. I understand a lot of that has to do with him being the first and the oldest but he only has one year on Batman and he's outsold Batman by like 150 million comics. So there's a 90 year history of compelling Superman stories to choose from. Even the Donner movies, while not perfect and kind of hammy in spots, are revered classics. The reason Superman is seeing diminishing returns is because WB keeps doing damage to the brand with these god awful movies.
I think Marvel did a decent enough job with the Captain America movies. He's a similar boy scout do good type character, but somehow he manages to come off cool and likable in those movies. Meanwhile WB keeps handing the reigns for Superman over to directors who are either gay, woke or retarded.
I think it's kind of a chicken or the egg situation. You're right that it could just be that the movies were bad and that's that, but to me I feel like if a talented director like a Nolan or Raimi were inspired by a Superman story and wanted to make a movie I don't think anyone is saying no.
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Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?
 Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
I think it's kind of a chicken or the egg situation. You're right that it could just be that the movies were bad and that's that, but to me I feel like if a talented director like a Nolan or Raimi were inspired by a Superman story and wanted to make a movie I don't think anyone is saying no.
Richard Donner was a normal guy who directed movies. He wasn't a "visionary" or a pretentious artist. He understood the job and he executed. He didn't try and reinvent the wheel or put his own spin on it.
The reason we haven't seen the classic Superman on screen is because the woke people that run Hollywood consider the old Superman to be problematic. He's white, he's straight, he's alpha and he saves the girl. Lois is brave and heroic, but she is also a damsel and in love with Superman. I will give credit where it's due and say that this version of Superman and Lois were better than the previous few, but that dynamic in their relationship was still missing.
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Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?
Secret Window

Nice-decent psychological thriller.
Honestly in the end not the kind of movie I typically watch, for some reason I thought it had more to do with a love angle, or at least was more mixed that way, like Vanilla Sky.
It was kind of a standard ish psycho horror movie in the end, although the story itself is pretty creative (written by Stephen King).
Solid movie, dont have to watch though.
6.7/10
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Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?
I have not seen Superman but hearing that it more of an adult film and not a child film? That sounds more promising to me.
This was a really big issue with the Star Wars prequels. They were still making Star Wars movies for children (who don't care about it) when Star Wars fans were older adults and needed something more adult in nature.
The last trilogy was less of an offender and the last movie had a horror movie vibe to it and was PG-13. But it was still guilty of this to some degree. It was a better trilogy than the prequels were.
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2011
Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?

Cast: Jack Nicholson, Robin Wright, Aaron Eckhart, Sam Shepard, Mickey Rourke, Benicio Del Toro, Helen Mirren, Patricia Clarkson
Director: Sean Penn
Crime/ Drama/ Mystery & Thriller
Released Jan 19, 2001, 2h 4m
Plot: A veteran detective investigates a child murder in small-town Nevada, a case he carries over into his retirement by moving into the neighborhood where the killing occurred.
I guess there was a reason I had never heard of this movie until recently.... because it was garbage.
I decided to check it out without reading any reviews because it checked all the boxes.
I'm surprised at how bad of a job Sean Penn did directing this film with the cast he was given.
3/10
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2011
Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?
As far as Superman goes... I understand if people don't like it.
I said the same thing about Batman vs Superman.... a movie that I loved, that most people hated... and I could understand why people didn't like it.
And no... this is not an adult film, it's for the entire family imo... you could take an 8 year old to this movie.
The Batman is a dark adult film. both were rated PG-13
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: Rate the last Movie you watched, Edition 3? 4?
it came the same year as the Matrix. 8/10
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