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    The New York Times compiled a list of the 100 greatest movies of the 21st century. More than 500 filmmakers, stars and influential film fans were asked to vote for the 10 best movies (however they chose to define that) released since Jan. 1, 2000. Perusing some of the individual ballots reveals a wide variety of choices and tastes and often precious little overlap. Still, from all that data a ranked list of 100 was compiled.


    06. No Country For Old Men (Joel & Ethan Coen)
    14. Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino)
    15. City of God (Fernando Meirelles)
    20. The Wolf of Wall Street (Martin Scorsese)
    28. The Dark Knight
    31. The Departed (Martin Scorsese)
    41. Amelie (Jean-Pierre Jeunet)
    44. Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (Quentin Tarantino)
    45. Moneyball (Bennett Miller)
    55. Inception (Christopher Nolan)
    62. Memento (Christopher Nolan)
    76. O Brother, Where Art Thou (Joel & Ethan Coen)
    85. Anchorman (Adam McKay)
    87. The Fellowship of the Ring (Peter Jackson)
    91. Fish Tank (Andrea Arnold)
    92. Gladiator (Ridley Scott)
    94. Minority Report (Steven Spielberg)
    100. Superbad (Greg Motolla)
    These are the ones ive seen.

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    The little man overcoming the big man is basically every movie ever in a nutshell. It isn't 25+ years, it's all of cinema. And it isn't a mess, humans enjoy seeing the underdog triumph, it is much more entertaining and meaningful than the other way around.

    You gotta get over it because that theme isn't going anywhere.
    Wokism has nothing to do something being an underdog story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    Wokism has nothing to do something being an underdog story.
    It has everything to do with that.

    You have someone in this thread who translated Parasite's theme of the lower class overcoming the upper class to woke black and white shit despite the fact that it is a foreign film with all Koreans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off the Court View Post
    It has everything to do with that.

    You have someone in this thread who translated Parasite's theme of the lower class overcoming the upper class to woke black and white shit despite the fact that it is a foreign film with all Koreans
    What a stupid take lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off the Court View Post
    It has everything to do with that.

    You have someone in this thread who translated Parasite's theme of the lower class overcoming the upper class to woke black and white shit despite the fact that it is a foreign film with all Koreans
    I haven't seen Parasite so I can't speak on that.

    A woke movie is any movie that preaches woke ideals and/or features a woke production element that comes at the expense of the film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    I haven't seen Parasite so I can't speak on that.

    A woke movie is any movie that preaches woke ideals and/or features a woke production element that comes at the expense of the film.
    Any movie where the underdog overcomes can be translated to woke.

    If Star Wars came out today you fools would declare it is woke trash about liberal minorities and women overcoming the evil Empire of white men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Off the Court View Post
    Any movie where the underdog overcomes can be translated to woke.

    If Star Wars came out today you fools would declare it is woke trash about liberal minorities and women overcoming the evil Empire of white men.
    Your definition of "woke" just shows how ignorant you are. I'm not surprised. One of the symptoms of being woke is lacking self awareness and not realizing that you're woke.

    We know the original Star Wars films aren't woke because Disney has done everything in their power to move as far away from them as they can. They consider the old films to be problematic. Practically every decision Disney makes as it relates to new Star Wars material is "How can we make this as totally different from the original films as possible..."

    In the original film the imperial bad guys are agnostic and look down on religion, putting their faith in technology and science instead. Meanwhile the rag tag good guys are driven by their religious faith in the force. That would never be the case today. Woke people are mostly atheist and detest religion. That's why in each new series or movie they go out of their way to deconstruct the jedi and make them out to be evil.

    The heroes in the old films were also problematic. Leia is a brave woman, but she is also feminine. She is beautiful. She lusts and she craves. Her entire arc in the second film is coming to grips with being able to admit she's in love. That also would never fly today. The female protagonists in Star Wars now are practically defined by how NOT like Leia they are. They're fierce, they know kung fu... and they don't even think about men or romance.

    Han Solo is cocky, brash and alpha... and white. Enough said there. None of the male heroes they've created since have come close to his level of cool or swag. The male heroes now are all beta cucks who need to be led around by a more capable woman. The most egregious example being the Obi-Wan series where a 10 year old Leia takes charge and the adult jedi master must constantly defer to her judgement and is pulled along by her strong will.

    If the old Star Wars movies are woke, Disney definitely did not get the memo.

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    I'm not going on my definition of woke, I don't think any of this shit is woke at all. I'm going off the "Parasite is Woke" definition presented in here.

    And your idea of what movies are allowed to do and not do is

    Han Solo is cocky, brash and alpha... and white. Enough said there. None of the male heroes they've created since have come close to his level of cool or swag.
    WTF is Deadpool and Wolverine then? THEY couldn't exist THEN, not the other way around. People's heads would explode


    You guys are just idiots with this political shit

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    Speaking of Wolverine


    Logan > Dark Knight


    should be listed

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    Sicario needs to be added to the list.

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    Remember when warriorfan said that Brokeback Mountain was the GOAT movie?

    I wonder how upset he would be seeing it outside of the top-10 in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    Your definition of "woke" just shows how ignorant you are. I'm not surprised. One of the symptoms of being woke is lacking self awareness and not realizing that you're woke.

    We know the original Star Wars films aren't woke because Disney has done everything in their power to move as far away from them as they can. They consider the old films to be problematic. Practically every decision Disney makes as it relates to new Star Wars material is "How can we make this as totally different from the original films as possible..."

    In the original film the imperial bad guys are agnostic and look down on religion, putting their faith in technology and science instead. Meanwhile the rag tag good guys are driven by their religious faith in the force. That would never be the case today. Woke people are mostly atheist and detest religion. That's why in each new series or movie they go out of their way to deconstruct the jedi and make them out to be evil.

    The heroes in the old films were also problematic. Leia is a brave woman, but she is also feminine. She is beautiful. She lusts and she craves. Her entire arc in the second film is coming to grips with being able to admit she's in love. That also would never fly today. The female protagonists in Star Wars now are practically defined by how NOT like Leia they are. They're fierce, they know kung fu... and they don't even think about men or romance.

    Han Solo is cocky, brash and alpha... and white. Enough said there. None of the male heroes they've created since have come close to his level of cool or swag. The male heroes now are all beta cucks who need to be led around by a more capable woman. The most egregious example being the Obi-Wan series where a 10 year old Leia takes charge and the adult jedi master must constantly defer to her judgement and is pulled along by her strong will.

    If the old Star Wars movies are woke, Disney definitely did not get the memo.
    The Empire was actually based on Nazis and Palpatine’s rise is meant to mirror Hitler’s. Lucas has disclosed this before. The main message is that democracy is fragile and can easily give way to dictatorship. The rest of the themes aren’t that deep, he took elements from films he liked like Seven Samurai and various westerns to hodgepodge everything into a Space Opera. Nothing wrong with that, it worked and it was fun.

    And your characterization of the whole good guys are the Christians and bad guys are the atheists is hilarious considering Palpatine is basically a megachurch pastor.

    Finally, Star Wars was written during the Vietnam war and has taken influence from that. That’s why the rebels are seen to engage in guerilla warfare against the much larger and well funded empire.

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    Training Day needs to be on there. And none of ya’ll like Curse of the Black Pearl? Just rewatched it with my daughter and it still holds up.

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    Training Day needs to be on there. And none of ya’ll like Curse of the Black Pearl? Just rewatched it with my daughter and it still holds up.
    Training Day was truly the biggest omission, it should've made it just on Denzel's performance alone. Personally, I would've had Collateral there too.

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