New York Times 100 Top Movies of the 21st Century

[Off the Court]

Highest rated IMDB not included on the list is The Prestige

probably should be on there.

[Baller234]

The Empire was actually based on Nazis and PalpatineÂ’s rise is meant to mirror HitlerÂ’s. Lucas has disclosed this before. The main message is that democracy is fragile and can easily give way to dictatorship. The rest of the themes arenÂ’t that deep, he took elements from films he liked like Seven Samurai and various westerns to hodgepodge everything into a Space Opera. Nothing wrong with that, it worked and it was fun.

And your characterization of the whole good guys are the Christians and bad guys are the atheists is hilarious considering Palpatine is basically a megachurch pastor.

Finally, Star Wars was written during the Vietnam war and has taken influence from that. ThatÂ’s why the rebels are seen to engage in guerilla warfare against the much larger and well funded empire.

Palpatine was not a dark jedi character in the original film, that was changed for the sequel. In the original film the emperor is referred to as just a regular politician. Darth Vader's role was always changed. In the original he is not a member of the Empire, he is a bounty hunter in their employ. The imperial officers don't respect his so called "religion".

With all due respect I don't care what Lucas says. He's stupid and autistic as well. A mad genius obviously but his views are not gospel. This is the same guy who decided out of the blue that Leia was Luke's sister. Even if he was looking to end the series with a clean break, that decision was pure mental retardation. He's also the same guy who retroactively declared that the force is something in your blood.

Point being, Lucas says a lot of dumb shit. That original film is not political. It's not a movie that appeals to just democrats or just republicans, unlike today's woke Star Wars that's made almost exclusively for woke lesbians and beta boys.

[Off the Court]

Palpatine was not a dark jedi character in the original film, that was changed for the sequel. In the original film the emperor is referred to as just a regular politician. Darth Vader's role was always changed. In the original he is not a member of the Empire, he is a bounty hunter in their employ. The imperial officers don't respect his so called "religion".

With all due respect I don't care what Lucas says. He's stupid and autistic as well. A mad genius obviously but his views are not gospel. This is the same guy who decided out of the blue that Leia was Luke's sister. Even if he was looking to end the series with a clean break, that decision was pure mental retardation. He's also the same guy who retroactively declared that the force is something in your blood.

Point being, Lucas says a lot of dumb shit. That original film is not political. It's not a movie that appeals to just democrats or just republicans, unlike today's woke Star Wars that's made almost exclusively for woke lesbians and beta boys.

If the original were released today you'd say the same damn thing.

C-3PO and R2-D2 would be labeled a gay LGBT Robot couple. The Empire would be WHITE MALE.

[Off the Court]

THIS wasn't a "dark jedi character" ??????

[j3lademaster]

Training Day was truly the biggest omission, it should've made it just on Denzel's performance alone. Personally, I would've had Collateral there too.

Collateral is a good one. I feel like Donnie Darko, the Pianist and the Machinist would be shoe-ins; and as someone who isn’t the biggest movie buff I really liked Road to Perdition, John Wick, Edge of Tomorrow, Taken and Midnight in Paris. But I’m not an artsy fartsy guy, I simply judge by what I enjoyed watching I’ll never understand several of these movies that literally put me to sleep. I would have put Undisputed 2 in there over some of these based solely on entertainment value.

[Doomsday Dallas]

The Town is another.

Ben Affleck's greatest career accomplishment after Good Will Hunting.



but they went with Gone Girl instead?

[Doomsday Dallas]

I would consider Creed II as a possibility

Rocky & Creed vs Drago sequel has to be considered.

[Doomsday Dallas]

AVATAR has to be on the list as well.

[j3lademaster]

How did Gangs of New York not make it? I must have missed that on the list.

[ShawkFactory]

How did Gangs of New York not make it? I must have missed that on the list.

Ehhhh. D-Day as Bill The Butcher was incredible of course but without him I’d not really give much mind to that one.

[tpols]

Ehhhh. D-Day as Bill The Butcher was incredible of course but without him I’d not really give much mind to that one.

Gangs of New York was much better than a lot of movies on this list. No training day either means its trash as well. Hell... Man on Fire was better than half these movies.

[1987_Lakers]

Yea, Gangs of New York was good, but I don't remember being blown away from it. Daniel Day was great as always, Leo was annoying as shit, never liked him as an actor until 2006 or so. Man on Fire wasn't that great either.

I enjoyed 25th Hour more than both of those movies, which isn't on the list

Hell, A History of Violence is a very good movie that doesn't get talked about anymore.

[ArbitraryWater]

The Town is another.

Ben Affleck's greatest career accomplishment after Good Will Hunting.



but they went with Gone Girl instead?

more inclusive

[Baller234]

THIS wasn't a "dark jedi character" ??????

You might wanna watch that first film again buddy.

[ShawkFactory]

Gangs of New York was much better than a lot of movies on this list. No training day either means its trash as well. Hell... Man on Fire was better than half these movies.

I don’t agree. DDay completely carried it and it was kind of lazy and boring outside of that.

Not Scorsese’s best work at all. One of the GOATs for sure but if that dude didn’t say yes to the part it’s a nothing movie.