09' Mo outproduced 16' Klay

[warriorfan]

Curry needed to recruit a top 3 player to his 73 win team to win half his titles, in addition to a comical number of injuries for his first one.

I give him props for winning 67 games in 2015, but those first 3 titles are honestly not impressive, and the KD ones mean nothing. Someone like Mark Price is likely racking up titles on those KD Warrior teams.

2011: negative ring
2012: lockout season vs 22 and 23 year old chokers, asterisk ring
2013: bron brick, bosh rebound, ray allen bang, asterisk ring
2016: adam silver collusion, asterisk ring
2020: Bubble plus anthony davis, asterisk ring


Bron sitting at -1 chips

[ShawkFactory]

We're STILL doing this?!

[3ba11]

2011: negative ring
2012: lockout season vs 22 and 23 year old chokers, asterisk ring
2013: bron brick, bosh rebound, ray allen bang, asterisk ring
2016: adam silver collusion, asterisk ring
2020: Bubble plus anthony davis, asterisk ring


Bron sitting at -1 chips

I honestly can't think of a single ring that I respect because he beat babies, then bailout, plus the 2nd option ring in 2020... And it's impossible to lose when your 2nd option is outplaying the league MVP, like Mathurin outplaying SGA or something - the Warriors were a +2800 roster and the 2nd option produced less than Mo or Hornacek, so Curry carried this low-producing cast to a shocking 67 wins, and then 73... It simply isn't impressive to beat a 1-man team with the only big 3 super-team and preseason fav

[1987_Lakers]

Imagine if LeBron teamed up with peak KD. You already have Bron haters acting like LeBron won titles with prime Wade, which wasn’t the case. KD would be a GOAT candidate in their minds.

[warriorfan]

I honestly can't think of a single ring that I respect because he beat babies, then bailout, plus the 2nd option ring in 2020... And it's impossible to lose when your 2nd option is outplaying the league MVP, like Mathurin outplaying SGA or something - the Warriors were a +2800 roster and the 2nd option produced less than Mo or Hornacek, so Curry carried this low-producing cast to a shocking 67 wins, and then 73... It simply isn't impressive to beat a 1-man team with the only big 3 super-team and preseason fav

Bron stans hate this. But it’s the hard truth.

[sdot_thadon]

I honestly can't think of a single ring that I respect because he beat babies, then bailout, plus the 2nd option ring in 2020... And it's impossible to lose when your 2nd option is outplaying the league MVP, like Mathurin outplaying SGA or something - the Warriors were a +2800 roster and the 2nd option produced less than Mo or Hornacek, so Curry carried this low-producing cast to a shocking 67 wins, and then 73... It simply isn't impressive to beat a 1-man team with the only big 3 super-team and preseason fav

Its crazy how much we talk about Kyrie performing great next to Lebron......but never question why he hasn't touched that level since.......

[warriorfan]

Its crazy how much we talk about Kyrie performing great next to Lebron......but never question why he hasn't touched that level since.......

Bro if you think bron was the reason for Kyrie doing anything you obviously didn’t watch the games or have a literal retard level iq. Bron and Kyrie did the my turn your turn style of ball. Bron wasnt gifting Kyrie tons of easy buckets. Kyrie has probably the goat handles and is elite and spectacular at finishing at the rim. Get out of here with this low iq nonsense. It’s embarrassing.

[SouBeachTalents]

Bro if you think bron was the reason for Kyrie doing anything you obviously didn’t watch the games or have a literal retard level iq. Bron and Kyrie did the my turn your turn style of ball. Bron wasnt gifting Kyrie tons of easy buckets. Kyrie has probably the goat handles and is elite and spectacular at finishing at the rim. Get out of here with this low iq nonsense. It’s embarrassing.

Kyrie hasn't come close to matching that performance in the playoffs since leaving Cleveland.

Since 2018 he goes from

26/5/6 on 60%TS in the regular season to
22/4/5 on 55% in the playoffs

That's a Harden/Embiid level drop. And a lot of that damage was done in first round series. Look how he's done against the truly elite teams of the league

2019 Bucks: 20/4/6 on 45%TS
2022 Celtics: 21/5/5 on 59%TS
2024 Thunder: 16/2/6 on 53%TS
2024 Celtics: 20/3/5 on 48%TS

He had one big series against the Wolves in 2024, outside of that, it's an inarguable pattern of having a huge drop off in performance in the playoffs without LeBron, esp against the elite teams of the league where he's frankly dogshit.

[warriorfan]

Kyrie hasn't come close to matching that performance in the playoffs since leaving Cleveland.

Since 2018 he goes from

26/5/6 on 60%TS in the regular season to
22/4/5 on 55% in the playoffs

That's a Harden/Embiid level drop. And a lot of that damage was done in first round series. Look how he's done against the truly elite teams of the league

2019 Bucks: 20/4/6 on 45%TS
2022 Celtics: 21/5/5 on 59%TS
2024 Thunder: 16/2/6 on 53%TS
2024 Celtics: 20/3/5 on 48%TS

He had one big series against the Wolves in 2024, outside of that, it's an inarguable pattern of having a huge drop off in performance in the playoffs without LeBron, esp against the elite teams of the league where he's frankly dogshit.

Did you watch those games?

[1987_Lakers]

Kyrie hasn't come close to matching that performance in the playoffs since leaving Cleveland.

Since 2018 he goes from

26/5/6 on 60%TS in the regular season to
22/4/5 on 55% in the playoffs

That's a Harden/Embiid level drop. And a lot of that damage was done in first round series. Look how he's done against the truly elite teams of the league

2019 Bucks: 20/4/6 on 45%TS
2022 Celtics: 21/5/5 on 59%TS
2024 Thunder: 16/2/6 on 53%TS
2024 Celtics: 20/3/5 on 48%TS

He had one big series against the Wolves in 2024, outside of that, it's an inarguable pattern of having a huge drop off in performance in the playoffs without LeBron, esp against the elite teams of the league where he's frankly dogshit.

Ether.

LeBron makes teammates better, they get worse on other teams.

Pippen, Grant, & Armstrong had career years immediately after MJ retired.

[ShawkFactory]

Bro if you think bron was the reason for Kyrie doing anything you obviously didn’t watch the games or have a literal retard level iq. Bron and Kyrie did the my turn your turn style of ball. Bron wasnt gifting Kyrie tons of easy buckets. Kyrie has probably the goat handles and is elite and spectacular at finishing at the rim. Get out of here with this low iq nonsense. It’s embarrassing.

Ugh fine...

Yes, he certainly helped Kyrie in those years. Think about the best thing that Kyrie did sa a young player(1 on 1 ball) and then all of the other gaps in his game at the time. Playing with Bron who could completely fill in all of those gaps from a defense, leadership, playmaking/pace-control standpoint allowed Kyrie to literally not have to worry about anything else other than what he did best. That is playing almost completely 1 on 1; not too many doubles sent his way when Bron was on the court...

Granted, he's gotten savvier overall and better as a floor general but in 2016 he was absolutely one of those guys that wasn't a positive in any game where his shot was off. Another granted...it often was on, particularly in that series. But he wasn't really all that well-rounded at the time and got better as a player overall in his time playing with Bron.

[warriorfan]

Ugh fine...

Yes, he certainly helped Kyrie in those years. Think about the best thing that Kyrie did sa a young player(1 on 1 ball) and then all of the other gaps in his game at the time. Playing with Bron who could completely fill in all of those gaps from a defense, leadership, playmaking/pace-control standpoint allowed Kyrie to literally not have to worry about anything else other than what he did best. That is playing almost completely 1 on 1; not too many doubles sent his way when Bron was on the court...

Granted, he's gotten savvier overall and better as a floor general but in 2016 he was absolutely one of those guys that wasn't a positive in any game where his shot was off. Another granted...it often was on, particularly in that series. But he wasn't really all that well-rounded at the time and got better as a player overall in his time playing with Bron.

Lot of words not a lot of substance.

They did my turn/your turn basketball.

[ShawkFactory]

Lot of words not a lot of substance.

They did my turn/your turn basketball.

Very few words.

Little insight.

[sdot_thadon]

Bro if you think bron was the reason for Kyrie doing anything you obviously didn’t watch the games or have a literal retard level iq. Bron and Kyrie did the my turn your turn style of ball. Bron wasnt gifting Kyrie tons of easy buckets. Kyrie has probably the goat handles and is elite and spectacular at finishing at the rim. Get out of here with this low iq nonsense. It’s embarrassing.

I shouldn't even pile on you've taken quite the spanking since this quote but alright. Why did his best postseason runs happen alongside Lebron? Both from a scoring and advanced metrics standpoint. Im sure hes gotten better as a player yet he cant do what he did alongside James? Also you jumped the gun saying Lebron got him easy buckets, he allowed Kyrie to do Kyrie without facing the full teeth of the defense. You guys can't make your minds up 1st Lebron ball turns everyone to spot up shooters but now it allows Kyrie to get his own buckets at the same volume he was able to as a no.1 in Boston. You suck at this.

[tpols]

Bro if you think bron was the reason for Kyrie doing anything you obviously didn’t watch the games or have a literal retard level iq. Bron and Kyrie did the my turn your turn style of ball. Bron wasnt gifting Kyrie tons of easy buckets. Kyrie has probably the goat handles and is elite and spectacular at finishing at the rim. Get out of here with this low iq nonsense. It’s embarrassing.

Wasn't Kyrie the 2nd option on a team that won the entire western conference with Luka? While Lebron couldn't even get out of the 1st round with Doncic? Thats interesting.