Democrats going to shutdown the government out of spite

[Hey Yo]

Chuck Schumer:

the longer it stays shutdown, the better it is for us

Not sure who the "us" is but it clearly shows he's putting politics over the people.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-for-shutdown/

[Baller234]

It doesn't matter if illegals are voting or they aren't, having and presenting a voter ID should be the standard for all 50 states.

Anyone advocating otherwise is extremely suspect.

[Hey Yo]

Yes, Illegal Aliens Get Medicaid and ObamaCare—Protecting That is Why Democrats Shut Down the Government
October 16, 2025

https://thefga.org/blog/yes-illegal-...he-government/

[ZenMaster]

He and Zen are morons who have no idea what it takes it takes to register to vote.

I had to provide more than one piece of evidence to register. I provided my photo ID and ss number. Both can verify citizenship upon access on system, so either would work. When I voted, I had to sign to match the signature I registered with. There's no same-day registration in my state AFAIK. If someone registered without ID, they are required to provide copy of one of the following to verify name/address in the system:
NJ drivers license or non-driver ID
U.S. passport
Military or government ID
Bank statement
Utility bill
Paycheck or government check
Any government document showing your name and address

Can an illegal person get these things? Perhaps theoretically can open a bank account for bank statement or own/rent a house in their official name for utility bill or paycheck.

Lets say someone did get that non-photo ID. Are large numbers going to risk felony charges? On the voter registration form, they would have to lie about being US citizen. While being illegal and potential to get thrown out of the country, mind you. They risk instant deportation, prison, and may permanently prohibit them from getting green card or citizenship in the future if there's a pathway. Illegals typically stay far away from any such risks. They are going to risk everything for a vote?

Lets say they lied there too. Next, the county runs a check of your name across DMV, SS, and jury duty databases to verify that you are in one of the systems. If you aren't, county flags you for further checks, which you likely won't pass.

It would take someone insane to attempt all this for a single vote.

I didn't say anything about the 2020 election, that was you and RMWG. If many millions are deported over the next few years you're going to need a miracle in the future by turning republicans into democrats. The Biden admin were giving them SSNs and those illegal immigrants would have received amnesty and turned into voting citizens had dems remained in power. Hell, RMWG even thought 500.000 Venezuelans had already been so, referring to them as legal citizens earlier in this very thread.

That being said, can you prove the bolded in your statement, that if an illegal tries to vote in NJ, election officials will reject them because they're notified as it happens?
And if that's true, wouldn't you agree that it's a great safe guard when the election officials can see if the person voting isn't a citizen so they can stop it?

[Real Men Wear Green]

I didn't say anything about the 2020 election, that was you and RMWG.

And Trump, who is the reason why this is being discussed. You can go back to your bullshitting, just wanted to point that out.

[Baller234]

I forgot who said it but it's so true.

It was something along the lines of... "the fundamental rule of being a lefty is pretending to not understand things".

[Hey Yo]

I forgot who said it but it's so true.

It was something along the lines of... "the fundamental rule of being a lefty is pretending to not understand things".

Real Men Love Illegals isn't pretending... he's just a retard with TDS.

[ShawkFactory]

I forgot who said it but it's so true.

It was something along the lines of... "the fundamental rule of being a lefty is pretending to not understand things".

Seems like you'd make natural allies with them then.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Hell, RMWG even thought 500.000 Venezuelans had already been so, referring to them as legal citizens earlier in this very thread.

I hadn't bothered to read this far when I replied before but it should be pointed out that this lying asshole is lying again. I didn't say they were legal citizens I said that they were here legally and they were until Trump had their protected status revoked so that he could declare them to be illegal. You're too shameless with the bullshitting.

[bladefd]

I didn't say anything about the 2020 election, that was you and RMWG. If many millions are deported over the next few years you're going to need a miracle in the future by turning republicans into democrats. The Biden admin were giving them SSNs and those illegal immigrants would have received amnesty and turned into voting citizens had dems remained in power. Hell, RMWG even thought 500.000 Venezuelans had already been so, referring to them as legal citizens earlier in this very thread.

That being said, can you prove the bolded in your statement, that if an illegal tries to vote in NJ, election officials will reject them because they're notified as it happens?
And if that's true, wouldn't you agree that it's a great safe guard when the election officials can see if the person voting isn't a citizen so they can stop it?

There was no pathway to citizenship for those illegals to become US citizens. Even if you get an SS number, you won't show up as an US citizen in the system when the county runs a check on your name when you register to vote.

Does amnesty give them path to citizenship? Perhaps you know something I don't. Link me to a source, and I will admit to being wrong if amnesty would have led illegals to become citizens.

The county maintains a voter database.

Statewide database: New Jersey keeps a central database of all registered voters. You can use the state's online portal to check your status at any time.

County-level oversight: Each county's election office—often the Board of Elections or the Commissioner of Registration—is responsible for the day-to-day management of voter records within its jurisdiction. This includes:

-Processing new registrations.
-Updating voter information, such as name or address changes.
-Verifying eligibility and removing ineligible voters from the rolls.

When you go to register, the county automatically runs your name in their databases. If someone isn't found in any database, they are flagged. The election office runs manual checks on the flagged people. I don't know exactly what happens if the office can't verify someone through any database. I don't know how every state does it.

[warriorfan]

I forgot who said it but it's so true.

It was something along the lines of... "the fundamental rule of being a lefty is pretending to not understand things".

Fits like a glove. You have to be extremely intellectually dishonest to prop up a lot of their talking points.

[Baller234]

Fits like a glove. You have to be extremely intellectually dishonest to prop up a lot of their talking points.

Look at how HIGHwhey ignores crime and laughs at people when they point to life real life examples of people being killed.

All because he feels obligated to cosplay as a woke revolutionary.

[warriorfan]

Look at how HIGHwhey ignores crime and laughs at people when they point to life real life examples of people being killed.

All because he feels obligated to cosplay as a woke revolutionary.

Well highwhey isn’t being intellectually dishonest he’s actually that stupid legitimately.

[Chick Stern]

Chuck Schumer:

the longer it stays shutdown, the better it is for us

Not sure who the "us" is but it clearly shows he's putting politics over the people.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...-for-shutdown/

[Lakers Legend#32]

Republicans hate government so shutting it down is their wet dream.