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					  Originally Posted by  bdonovan
					 
				 
				Jordan has trouble walking.  He can no longer play ball recreationally because his body is in such bad shape.   He said so recently.   
 
Load management comes from science, from doctors understanding sports physiology.    
 
As hardcore as Jordan was and wants to come across now, he himself would be in far better shape had he had load management.   
 
Maybe he could even pick the ball up at 60 or whatever age he is. 
 
There is maybe no better example of "toughness posturing" in sports as load management.  Fans even want to seem "tough" by talking down load management, calling the players "weak" for using it etc.   Fans often reference the past; but take a look at most of those players, their bodies are a wreck. 
			
		 
	 
  
Who cares if he could ball at 60? 95% of regular people cant play pick up at that age. Its a young mans game and you give it your all while you can. If he had this soft ass attitude saving himself for 60 he wouldn't be the GOAT.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							MJ couldn't go more than 7yrs (87-93) in his era without needing to walk away due to mental and physical fatigue. Highly doubt he plays all those full regular seasons if he's playing at the pace the game is being played today.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Hey Yo
					 
				 
				MJ couldn't go more than 7yrs (87-93) in his era without needing to walk away due to mental and physical fatigue. Highly doubt he plays all those full regular seasons if he's playing at the pace the game is being played today. 
			
		 
	 
 The overall talent and hustle is on another level compared to where it was when MJ first joined. Not to mention overall spacing is superior which means defenders have to cover more ground now. 
 
Watch some regular season games from the 80's, mid-range shots were basically 3 pointers which made it way easier for defenders and you see a lot of players playing lazy transition defense.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							No one should be defending load management.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Hey Yo
					 
				 
				MJ couldn't go more than 7yrs (87-93) in his era without needing to walk away due to mental and physical fatigue. Highly doubt he plays all those full regular seasons if he's playing at the pace the game is being played today. 
			
		 
	 
 What is this based on besides you dudes talking out your asses? Highly doubt? Bwhahaha  
 
These arguments remind me of someone who runs from a fight then says you would have done the same. Everyone is not soft like you. There’s nothing on MJ resume that screams load management. Stop acting like today’s game is way more difficult to play in vs yesterday’s. Defending load management makes me question some of you “males”, respectfully
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  StrongLurk
					 
				 
				No one should be defending load management. 
			
		 
	 
 I blame the Spurs for this. They were really the first team to take load management to another level around 2012 or so. Other teams began to copy them.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  GOBB
					 
				 
				What is this based on besides you dudes talking out your asses? Highly doubt? Bwhahaha  
 
These arguments remind me of someone who runs from a fight then says you would have done the same. Everyone is not soft like you. There’s nothing on MJ resume that screams load management. Stop acting like today’s game is way more difficult to play in vs yesterday’s. Defending load management makes me question some of you “males”, respectfully 
			
		 
	 
 I never claimed he load managed during the season. Did you read what he said in the OP? Did you see the whole video? MJ is given the questions ahead of time and practices his answers ahead of time. A video is shown of him early in his career where he turned his ankle. From there it was nothing but him blowing himself cause others "tried to talk me into coming out of the game" then of course how "I pushed back and told them fans are here to see me, I can't let them down... blah... blah ... blah... look how kind hearted I was thinking of the fans. Dude's scared to do live interviews and knows he's fading.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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					  Originally Posted by  StrongLurk
					 
				 
				No one should be defending load management. 
			
		 
	 
 In theory no but in practicality yes. 
 
There's no way around it. Players are putting way more mileage on during a given game than at any point in history. The game is more fast paced on both offense and defense than at any point in history. That's why even with the load management you're still seeing so many injuries. 
 
The solution is reducing the number of games.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Baller234
					 
				 
				In theory no but in practicality yes. 
 
There's no way around it. Players are putting way more mileage on during a given game than at any point in history. The game is more fast paced on both offense and defense than at any point in history. That's why even with the load management you're still seeing so many injuries. 
 
The solution is reducing the number of games. 
			
		 
	 
 This is the most obvious solution, an 82 game schedule is completely antiquated in this day and age. This isn't 1955 when you had 3 tv channels and the radio to compete with, there are too many entertainment options available today for fans to sit through 82 games over 7 months for games that, let's keep it real, are meaningless on an individual basis.  
 
I've been saying this for a long time, cut the schedule to 58 games, start the season after the Super Bowl so you're not in direct competition with the NFL for several months and can dominate the sports coverage, and I think you'd see a legitimate improvement in the quality of regular season games.  
 
Players would be less likely to load manage, I think you'd see an improvement in player effort and intensity knowing the season is much shorter and you only play every team twice.  You'd still have massive flaws like how comically geared towards offense the league is, but I think shortening the season would provide many benefits to the regular season.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							Michael Jordan started the trend in the 1990's.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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							Why should the NBA cut it's schedule significantly back when every other major sport has upped their regular season games?  
 
NFL will soon be 18 games.  
 
NHL is going to 84 games.  
 
Why is 82 games so acquainted for the NBA but not for the other sports?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Carbine
					 
				 
				Why should the NBA cut it's schedule significantly back when every other major sport has upped their regular season games?  
 
NFL will soon be 18 games.  
 
NHL is going to 84 games.  
 
Why is 82 games so acquainted for the NBA but not for the other sports? 
			
		 
	 
 It's honestly crazy the NFL is trying to up it to 18. With all the injuries that happen every week, in the long run it only damages your product. 16 games was good enough.  
 
In reality, all regular season games should be limited in every major sport, but owners will not allow it, they want the money to keep coming in.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  SouBeachTalents
					 
				 
				This is the most obvious solution, an 82 game schedule is completely antiquated in this day and age. 
			
		 
	 
 This is the bottom line. 82 games was ridiculous back in the day and it's ridiculous now. However it's the one thing that is guaranteed to never change. 
 
12 (or whatever) less games means 12x20k less ticket sales, 12 less nights to sell merch and concessions and 12 less games in a TV deal. Should happen, never will. 
 
Nothing amazes me more than the amount of people that eat at sporting events. 2.5 hours and you can't eat before or after a game? You'd rather queue up and buy shitty fast food for extortionate prices and stuff your face during the game you paid top dollar to see? Insane.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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					  Originally Posted by  Hey Yo
					 
				 
				MJ couldn't go more than 7yrs (87-93) in his era without needing to walk away due to mental and physical fatigue. Highly doubt he plays all those full regular seasons if he's playing at the pace the game is being played today. 
			
		 
	 
 LOL. That's 7 straight years of averaging 30+ ppg and playing 39 mpg in the RS alone for a total of 567 games & adding on another 104 games at ~42 mpg in the Playoffs. He missed what, 1 game per season on average in that stretch and didn't miss a single Playoff game? With him playing a full season carrying that load and then upping his volume and production in the POs? 
 
Now tell me how many players in the last 7 seasons have played that many RS games in today's NBA?  
 
Game might be faster now, but the load he carried was insane, and when he returned he didn't miss a single game until he retired after his 6th ring, which is 263 straight RS games and another 68 Playoff games on top of it. He also played all 82 games w/37 mpg at 40 years old in a very physical early 2000s NBA. 
 
I don't think we need to question Jordan's ability to play the game out of all people.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  ImKobe
					 
				 
				LOL. That's 7 straight years of averaging 30+ ppg and playing 39 mpg in the RS alone for a total of 567 games & adding on another 104 games at ~42 mpg in the Playoffs. He missed what, 1 game per season on average in that stretch and didn't miss a single Playoff game? With him playing a full season carrying that load and then upping his volume and production in the POs? 
 
Now tell me how many players in the last 7 seasons have played that many RS games in today's NBA?  
 
Game might be faster now, but the load he carried was insane, and when he returned he didn't miss a single game until he retired after his 6th ring, which is 263 straight RS games and another 68 Playoff games on top of it. He also played all 82 games w/37 mpg at 40 years old in a very physical early 2000s NBA. 
 
I don't think we need to question Jordan's ability to play the game out of all people. 
			
		 
	 
 All you did was further prove that he would've never sustained his pace, even in a much slower league, to where he needed that time off in order to comeback and contend for 3 more consecutive Finald runs. The chances of the Bulls playing in 8 consecutive was very slim to none cause no way does MJ not peter out and need time off.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
			
				 
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