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    Default Re: Gavin Newsom MALFUNCTIONS When Asked About AIPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    It's fair to acknowledge the injustices of history, but constantly denouncing the system without making any tangible effort to live differently can come across as performative. If you truly believes the land is stolen and the system is irredeemably unjust, yet you continue to reap the benefits and enjoy the comfort without any meaningful sacrifice, then how does that make you better than the next person?

    You guys don't care about "justice" or righting the wrongs of the past. It's more about signaling moral superiority without taking responsibility or contributing to real change.
    Who?

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    Default Re: Gavin Newsom MALFUNCTIONS When Asked About AIPAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    It's not about defending anything, it's simply acknowledging reality. America was built on it.

    Are you saying we should all be ashamed of that fact? We shouldn't have the right to declare America as our home country because technically other people were here first?

    Because that's essentially what you're saying.
    so you stand firm with your affirmation that israel should not have the freedom to take or claim land from their neighbors as their own despite whatever ancient biblical claim they say they have to it.

    so what's the problem? the argument from the people here, as i understand it, are taking issue with any apparent land expansion project beyond green line israel - not israel's right to exist within their original 1947 borders. you agree with this sentiment - correct me if i'm wrong.

    ...therefore i don't understand exactly what hypocrisy you're calling these people out on.

    Are you saying we should all be ashamed of that fact? We shouldn't have the right to declare America as our home country because technically other people were here first?

    Because that's essentially what you're saying.
    i didn't say anything of the sort. i'm just trying to clarify the above.

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