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Re: Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)
Rank Player PPG
1. Michael Jordan* 30.12
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 30.07
3. Luka Dončić 28.72
4. Joel Embiid 27.60
5. Elgin Baylor* 27.36
6. Kevin Durant 27.20
7. Jerry West* 27.03
8. LeBron James 27.01
9. Allen Iverson* 26.66
10. Bob Pettit* 26.36
11. Oscar Robertson* 25.68
12. Trae Young 25.22
13. Damian Lillard 25.11
14. George Gervin* 25.09
15. Karl Malone* 25.02
16. Kobe Bryant* 24.99
17. Dominique Wilkins* 24.83
18. Donovan Mitchell 24.83
19. Stephen Curry 24.79
20. Rick Barry* 24.78
21. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 24.67
Luka is on pace for 40K points and he's top five in PPG. SGA is having a moment but it's like saying Hakeem > Jordan because Hakeem made the finals first
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Re: Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)
 Originally Posted by ImKobe
It worked for the Mavs. They won 2 of the 3 series and Celtics struggled offensively as well.
Be truthful. Tatum was shooting badly but he wasn't guarded by Doncic. The Celtics hunted him as much as possible and murdering Doncic when he was on defense also wore him out for when he was on offense. Brown killed him head-to-head. The series was not competitive and Doncic being below his norm on offense and the weak link on defense was a major reason why. Any team you put Doncic on an opponent that can spread the floor with multiple Go9d offensive players like the Celtics had will take advantage. Maybe he will handle that better now that he's in decent shape but in that Finals it was huge, probably the biggest difference for the Mavericks from the success they had enjoyed in previous rounds (either him or what Holiday did to Kyrie).
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Re: Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)
 Originally Posted by John8204
Rank Player PPG
1. Michael Jordan* 30.12
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 30.07
3. Luka Dončić 28.72
4. Joel Embiid 27.60
5. Elgin Baylor* 27.36
6. Kevin Durant 27.20
7. Jerry West* 27.03
8. LeBron James 27.01
9. Allen Iverson* 26.66
10. Bob Pettit* 26.36
11. Oscar Robertson* 25.68
12. Trae Young 25.22
13. Damian Lillard 25.11
14. George Gervin* 25.09
15. Karl Malone* 25.02
16. Kobe Bryant* 24.99
17. Dominique Wilkins* 24.83
18. Donovan Mitchell 24.83
19. Stephen Curry 24.79
20. Rick Barry* 24.78
21. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 24.67
Luka is on pace for 40K points and he's top five in PPG. SGA is having a moment but it's like saying Hakeem > Jordan because Hakeem made the finals first
You think lukas body will hold up for 40000? More to the game than scoring. Mvps, championships, d...
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Re: Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)
Shai won the MVP last year and was the runner up the year before. I think Luka has something to prove to get to that level.
As good as Luka has been on offense in the playoffs his defense has gotten exposed pretty badly at times.
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Re: Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)
Nobody has prevented SGA from scoring 20+ points in 85 consecutive games and counting.
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Re: Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)
 Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld
Nobody has prevented SGA from scoring 20+ points in 85 consecutive games and counting.
20 points doesnt mean as much as it once did. Nba at an all time high ortg
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Re: Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)
Comfortably better.
Its Jokic, SGA and Giannis up the top.
Luka is in the next bracket down.
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Re: Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)
 Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
You think lukas body will hold up for 40000? More to the game than scoring. Mvps, championships, d...
The thing that kills shooters are ACL and back injuries...he always gets the ticky tack injuries. Luka's issue was getting the AI/Carmello treatment but that doesn't happen with the Lakers. Also I count conference championships as championships.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)
 Originally Posted by John8204
The thing that kills shooters are ACL and back injuries...he always gets the ticky tack injuries. Luka's issue was getting the AI/Carmello treatment but that doesn't happen with the Lakers. Also I count conference championships as championships.
Lakers dont count conference championships
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Re: Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)
 Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Lakers dont count conference championships
They actually do thirty years of free agency signings how many guys did they chase that made the finals (Shaq, Payton, Malone, Howard, Leborn, Luka
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Re: Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)
Hard to say really. I think if you switch SGA with Luka, OKC would still win.
SGA is actually pretty ball dominant and low assist, but Luka is probably the slowest, most ball dominant player of all time. He is highly skilled so it works, but it's not ideal for a player to be so ball dominant while also generally unathletic and not a good defender.
I think Luka is a slightly better "talent" than SGA but I'd rather have SGA for more 2-way versatility.
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