Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)

[John8204]

Rank Player PPG
1. Michael Jordan* 30.12
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 30.07
3. Luka Dončić 28.72
4. Joel Embiid 27.60
5. Elgin Baylor* 27.36
6. Kevin Durant 27.20
7. Jerry West* 27.03
8. LeBron James 27.01
9. Allen Iverson* 26.66
10. Bob Pettit* 26.36
11. Oscar Robertson* 25.68
12. Trae Young 25.22
13. Damian Lillard 25.11
14. George Gervin* 25.09
15. Karl Malone* 25.02
16. Kobe Bryant* 24.99
17. Dominique Wilkins* 24.83
18. Donovan Mitchell 24.83
19. Stephen Curry 24.79
20. Rick Barry* 24.78
21. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 24.67

Luka is on pace for 40K points and he's top five in PPG. SGA is having a moment but it's like saying Hakeem > Jordan because Hakeem made the finals first

[Real Men Wear Green]

It worked for the Mavs. They won 2 of the 3 series and Celtics struggled offensively as well.

Be truthful. Tatum was shooting badly but he wasn't guarded by Doncic. The Celtics hunted him as much as possible and murdering Doncic when he was on defense also wore him out for when he was on offense. Brown killed him head-to-head. The series was not competitive and Doncic being below his norm on offense and the weak link on defense was a major reason why. Any team you put Doncic on an opponent that can spread the floor with multiple Go9d offensive players like the Celtics had will take advantage. Maybe he will handle that better now that he's in decent shape but in that Finals it was huge, probably the biggest difference for the Mavericks from the success they had enjoyed in previous rounds (either him or what Holiday did to Kyrie).

[Xiao Yao You]

Rank Player PPG
1. Michael Jordan* 30.12
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 30.07
3. Luka Dončić 28.72
4. Joel Embiid 27.60
5. Elgin Baylor* 27.36
6. Kevin Durant 27.20
7. Jerry West* 27.03
8. LeBron James 27.01
9. Allen Iverson* 26.66
10. Bob Pettit* 26.36
11. Oscar Robertson* 25.68
12. Trae Young 25.22
13. Damian Lillard 25.11
14. George Gervin* 25.09
15. Karl Malone* 25.02
16. Kobe Bryant* 24.99
17. Dominique Wilkins* 24.83
18. Donovan Mitchell 24.83
19. Stephen Curry 24.79
20. Rick Barry* 24.78
21. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 24.67

Luka is on pace for 40K points and he's top five in PPG. SGA is having a moment but it's like saying Hakeem > Jordan because Hakeem made the finals first

You think lukas body will hold up for 40000? More to the game than scoring. Mvps, championships, d...

[tontoz]

Shai won the MVP last year and was the runner up the year before. I think Luka has something to prove to get to that level.

As good as Luka has been on offense in the playoffs his defense has gotten exposed pretty badly at times.

[k0kakw0rld]

Nobody has prevented SGA from scoring 20+ points in 85 consecutive games and counting.

[Xiao Yao You]

Nobody has prevented SGA from scoring 20+ points in 85 consecutive games and counting.

20 points doesnt mean as much as it once did. Nba at an all time high ortg

[plowking]

Comfortably better.

Its Jokic, SGA and Giannis up the top.

Luka is in the next bracket down.

[John8204]

You think lukas body will hold up for 40000? More to the game than scoring. Mvps, championships, d...

The thing that kills shooters are ACL and back injuries...he always gets the ticky tack injuries. Luka's issue was getting the AI/Carmello treatment but that doesn't happen with the Lakers. Also I count conference championships as championships.

[Xiao Yao You]

The thing that kills shooters are ACL and back injuries...he always gets the ticky tack injuries. Luka's issue was getting the AI/Carmello treatment but that doesn't happen with the Lakers. Also I count conference championships as championships.

Lakers dont count conference championships

[John8204]

Lakers dont count conference championships

They actually do thirty years of free agency signings how many guys did they chase that made the finals (Shaq, Payton, Malone, Howard, Leborn, Luka

[StrongLurk]

Hard to say really. I think if you switch SGA with Luka, OKC would still win.

SGA is actually pretty ball dominant and low assist, but Luka is probably the slowest, most ball dominant player of all time. He is highly skilled so it works, but it's not ideal for a player to be so ball dominant while also generally unathletic and not a good defender.

I think Luka is a slightly better "talent" than SGA but I'd rather have SGA for more 2-way versatility.

[k0kakw0rld]

Rank Player PPG
1. Michael Jordan* 30.12
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 30.07
3. Luka Dončić 28.72
4. Joel Embiid 27.60
5. Elgin Baylor* 27.36
6. Kevin Durant 27.20
7. Jerry West* 27.03
8. LeBron James 27.01
9. Allen Iverson* 26.66
10. Bob Pettit* 26.36
11. Oscar Robertson* 25.68
12. Trae Young 25.22
13. Damian Lillard 25.11
14. George Gervin* 25.09
15. Karl Malone* 25.02
16. Kobe Bryant* 24.99
17. Dominique Wilkins* 24.83
18. Donovan Mitchell 24.83
19. Stephen Curry 24.79
20. Rick Barry* 24.78
21. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 24.67

Luka is on pace for 40K points and he's top five in PPG. SGA is having a moment but it's like saying Hakeem > Jordan because Hakeem made the finals first

Shai on pace to average for a 4th straight season at least 30 ppg 5 rpg 5 apg 1 spg on 50+% fg. That's Jordanesque. Luka ball hasn't proven that it can win you a championship. At 27 Shai has a MVP a FMVP a ring a scoring champ. Something even LeBron didn't accomplish, let alone Luka.

[John8204]

Shai on pace to average for a 4th straight season at least 30 ppg 5 rpg 5 apg 1 spg on 50+% fg. That's Jordanesque. Luka ball hasn't proven that it can win you a championship. At 27 Shai has a MVP a FMVP a ring a scoring champ. Something even LeBron didn't accomplish, let alone Luka.

In fairness to SGA he seems like he's better than Jordan when it comes to being a teammate and fostering a functional winner. The difference is SGA has a team that is built very well while Luka went from a bad fit in Dallas to a questionable one in Los Angeles...and he still made the conference finals and NBA finals at 26.

[ImKobe]

In fairness to SGA he seems like he's better than Jordan when it comes to being a teammate and fostering a functional winner. The difference is SGA has a team that is built very well while Luka went from a bad fit in Dallas to a questionable one in Los Angeles...and he still made the conference finals and NBA finals at 26.

Does it? SGA is a high character dude and a great teammate but sometimes you need tough love & strong leadership, especially to play with Rodman and Pippen. Different eras. SGA fits well with the young dudes in OKC though so his personality might be great for his situation.

[Xiao Yao You]

In fairness to SGA he seems like he's better than Jordan when it comes to being a teammate and fostering a functional winner. The difference is SGA has a team that is built very well while Luka went from a bad fit in Dallas to a questionable one in Los Angeles...and he still made the conference finals and NBA finals at 26.

They got him 2 rim runners in dallas to get him to a finals. Not sure how that was a bad fit? He needs rim runners. Shai will fit anywhere