Why do people say "Lebron has all the stats" when Magic has APG and MJ has PPG

[sdot_thadon]

What are you even arguing here? That Lebron doesnt have a statistically impressive career? If so thats one of the more stupid stances in a long line of stupid stances from you, its pretty high up your personal all time list. They say he has "all the stats" because he does. Hes high up the record books on almost any conceivable stat. Hes literally the only guy ever to post 40k 10k 10k for a career, with no other player even coming close. His career averages? They are elite still after 23 seasons. Most guy's last few seasons cannibalize their career averages to below what they truly were as players. Lebron? Not so much. Theres not a single angle you can take that he doesnt look good statistically, unless i guess you want to gripe that he isnt a great free throw shooter.....big whoop.

[3ba11]

What are you even arguing here? That Lebron doesnt have a statistically impressive career? If so thats one of the more stupid stances in a long line of stupid stances from you, its pretty high up your personal all time list. They say he has "all the stats" because he does. Hes high up the record books on almost any conceivable stat. Hes literally the only guy ever to post 40k 10k 10k for a career, with no other player even coming close. His career averages? They are elite still after 23 seasons. Most guy's last few seasons cannibalize their career averages to below what they truly were as players. Lebron? Not so much. Theres not a single angle you can take that he doesnt look good statistically, unless i guess you want to gripe that he isnt a great free throw shooter.....big whoop.

Magic has APG and MJ has PPG... And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!

Who cares about playing at a lower level for longer (longevity) - the lower level/lower averages = inferior

MJ and Jokic lead the all-time PER, BPM, WS/48, and VORP, while Lebron also trails in FT%, SPG, BPG, OREB & TO's (per game), and ORTG (pts produced per possession) - he also has the most missed shots and TO's ever, which completely offset his career points total.

stockton and kareem have equal or better career totals than lebron, but no one cares, and no one has EVER cared about career totals.. Miller has 3000 more points than Bird, but no one is dumb enough to say that he's a better scorer, yet I hear that crap about Lebron all the time (that he's the greatest scorer - in reality, LeBrokeJumper and LeStiffArm isn't a top 20 scorer all-time as far as his scoring skill and ability

[SouBeachTalents]

Magic has APG and MJ has PPG... And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!

Who cares about playing at a lower level for longer (longevity) - the lower level/lower averages = inferior

MJ and Jokic lead the all-time PER, BPM, WS/48, and VORP, while Lebron also trails in FT%, SPG, BPG, OREB & TO's (per game), and ORTG (pts produced per possession) - he also has the most missed shots and TO's ever, which completely offset his career points total.

stockton and kareem have equal or better career totals than lebron, but no one cares, and no one has EVER cared about career totals.. Miller has 3000 more points than Bird, but no one is dumb enough to say that he's a better scorer, yet I hear that crap about Lebron all the time (that he's the greatest scorer - in reality, LeBrokeJumper and LeStiffArm isn't a top 20 scorer all-time as far as his scoring skill and ability

Yep, the guy who's top 10 in both regular season and playoff ppg, and that's with him playing into his 40's, isn't even a top 20 scorer ever. A rational and intelligent take as always.

[Hey Yo]

Jordan has the * that nobody else has

[sdot_thadon]

Magic has APG and MJ has PPG... And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!

Who cares about playing at a lower level for longer (longevity) - the lower level/lower averages = inferior

MJ and Jokic lead the all-time PER, BPM, WS/48, and VORP, while Lebron also trails in FT%, SPG, BPG, OREB & TO's (per game), and ORTG (pts produced per possession) - he also has the most missed shots and TO's ever, which completely offset his career points total.

stockton and kareem have equal or better career totals than lebron, but no one cares, and no one has EVER cared about career totals.. Miller has 3000 more points than Bird, but no one is dumb enough to say that he's a better scorer, yet I hear that crap about Lebron all the time (that he's the greatest scorer - in reality, LeBrokeJumper and LeStiffArm isn't a top 20 scorer all-time as far as his scoring skill and ability

If.we got to know one thing after all these posts its gotta be this: you one weird ass mofo. Youre arguing that he isnt 1st in everything? Ive never even heard that take from the most deep throat level lebron stans bruh. When they say "hes got all the stats" they mean in a nutshell hes pretty good at everything, not hes 1st place in every stat ever. Thats just stupid shit somebody grown as you should be above. Hes amongst the top in almost every relevant category. This isnt up for discussion at this point.

And Miller never was said to be as good a scorer or better than Bird....because he wasnt. Duh. Meanwhile Lebrons ppg is top 10 of people to ever play a game in 75 plus years. His scoring totals around far beyond what anyone else has accumulated. Unless you want to do this groupie level handwringing over what looks prettier to you...its fair to say hes one of the greatest scorers to ever touch a basketball. And still adding to his gap after 23 seasons!

[Phoenix]

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I've mathematically solved Lebron's game

Whats the math on the number of accounts and posts you've spammed about Lebron at this point? Does your calculator go that high or did it start waving a white flag?

[3ba11]

If.we got to know one thing after all these posts its gotta be this: you one weird ass mofo.

Youre arguing that he isnt 1st in everything?

No, I'm saying he isn't #1 in anything

Magic has APG and MJ has PPG... And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!

career AVERAGES are the best indicator of who is the best in a particular category, not cumulative totals... Otherwise, Reggie Miller would be considered a better scorer than Bird due to 3000 more career points - fortunately, the per game averages tell the story

[3ba11]

Whats the math on the number of accounts and posts you've spammed about Lebron at this point? Does your calculator go that high or did it start waving a white flag?

The truth often takes time.. and as my post showed, I got there

[SouBeachTalents]

No, I'm saying he isn't #1 in anything

Magic has APG and MJ has PPG... And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!

career AVERAGES are the best indicator of who is the best in a particular category, not cumulative totals... Otherwise, Reggie Miller would be considered a better scorer than Bird due to 3000 more career points - fortunately, the per game averages tell the story

He's the best at consuming your life.

To answer Phoenix, he must be at minimum 50,000 posts in, and that's a conservative estimate.

[sdot_thadon]

No, I'm saying he isn't #1 in anything

Magic has APG and MJ has PPG... And other guys have RPG, SPG, BPG and efficiency - Lebron is nowhere near the best at anything!!

career AVERAGES are the best indicator of who is the best in a particular category, not cumulative totals... Otherwise, Reggie Miller would be considered a better scorer than Bird due to 3000 more career points - fortunately, the per game averages tell the story

And why is that so important to you? This is where not being a one track minded obsessed idiot comes into play. If you know how statistics work, the longer you play the harder it is to keep a high average past your decline. Lebron is still amonst leaders Despite having played this many seasons past his best self. That's what should be really impressive to a guy like yourself. You look at totals hes top 25 in what? 5 of the 6 major categories. Only player in the entire history of the orange ball to do so. You talk about him being behind Joker and Mj in some advanced stats. Its impressive that hes still as high as he is 23 seasons in neither of those 2 would likely be able to replicate that. Im still trying to figure out what's your point or why this is so important? If it's because you think its a talking point in the goat debate? It is, but just one of many. I'll ask you this. If Mj is so far the goat in your mind that you do all this bullshit online: why does he only lead in PPG? Where the rest of his mythical output? Seems like you're arguing a guy isn't 1st in everything vs a guy who's 1st in one thing? or are we looking at the spread of stats and saying here are 2 guys who could do nearly everything but one guy was a bit more versatile and was that good for much longer?

[sdot_thadon]

He's the best at consuming your life.

To answer Phoenix, he must be at minimum 50,000 posts in, and that's a conservative estimate.

50k is criminally underrating his passion lol. I'd estimate he's eclipsed a million across the sites I've been on. And done nothing but make Lebron look greater than Mj in these posts. Worst spokesman ever.

[3ba11]

And why is that so important to you? This is where not being a one track minded obsessed idiot comes into play. If you know how statistics work, the longer you play the harder it is to keep a high average past your decline. Lebron is still amonst leaders Despite having played this many seasons past his best self. That's what should be really impressive to a guy like yourself. You look at totals hes top 25 in what? 5 of the 6 major categories. Only player in the entire history of the orange ball to do so. You talk about him being behind Joker and Mj in some advanced stats. Its impressive that hes still as high as he is 23 seasons in neither of those 2 would likely be able to replicate that. Im still trying to figure out what's your point or why this is so important? If it's because you think its a talking point in the goat debate? It is, but just one of many. I'll ask you this. If Mj is so far the goat in your mind that you do all this bullshit online: why does he only lead in PPG? Where the rest of his mythical output? Seems like you're arguing a guy isn't 1st in everything vs a guy who's 1st in one thing? or are we looking at the spread of stats and saying here are 2 guys who could do nearly everything but one guy was a bit more versatile and was that good for much longer?

At no point in Lebron's career was he anywhere near #1 in any per game category.

He's simply nowhere near the best at anything in basketball.

And MJ leads in the most important category - the only category that DIRECTLY impacts the scoreboard.. He's also near the top in SPG... So that's 2 of the 5 main categories.

He and Jokic also rule all the advanced box stats (PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP)

So that's a lot . That's goat

Jordan's clutch efficiency is also #1 and this includes efficiency on game-winners AND clutch-time in general (last 5 within 5)

Then there's Finals record, or MVP longevity (MVP's throughout a 10-year stretch), and so much more.. He's also the most organic champ in history... I can go on and on

[3ba11]

He's the best at consuming your life.

To answer Phoenix, he must be at minimum 50,000 posts in, and that's a conservative estimate.

Stick a sock in it bud - your act is even more tired than mine trust me . And you must be a slow typer or not know how to use a computer if u think this takes up any amount of time.. It used to a long time ago, but now .y arguments are all confirmed and proven by the unfolding historical record (the last 10 years).. So I just drive home points at this point - more like reminders in the face of media fraud

[sdot_thadon]

At no point in Lebron's career was he anywhere near #1 in any per game category.

He's simply nowhere near the best at anything in basketball.

And MJ leads in the most important category - the only category that DIRECTLY impacts the scoreboard.. He's also near the top in SPG... So that's 2 of the 5 main categories.

He and Jokic also rule all the advanced box stats (PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP)

So that's a lot . That's goat

Jordan's clutch efficiency is also #1 and this includes efficiency on game-winners AND clutch-time in general (last 5 within 5)

Then there's Finals record, or MVP longevity (MVP's throughout a 10-year stretch), and so much more.. He's also the most organic champ in history... I can go on and on

He and Jokic rule the advanced stats? (Aint that a cute was of saying Jokic passed him) But Lebron doesnt despite still having a few categories #1....after 23 seasons? You're lame bruh. All that would be great if per game stats were the only ones that matter, but they're literally only one section of basketball stats. They can matter the most in your opinion but that doesnt mean shit for me or anyone else thats at least somewhat objective. And ill say it again. The fact Lebron still ranks as high as he does 23 seasons in is amazing in itself. I can damn near guarantee you there's maybe only a guy or 2 aside from him high as he is on any one list with even a comparable mileage. And by comparable we're still talking 3 seasons or more less. More gamewinners in the postseason. Beat better teams. Won with fvmp anywhere hes played. The .most versatile champion the league has ever seen. Bron that dude.

[KD7]

OP answer this question

Who has playoff points LeBron or MJ