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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe View Post
    Warriors always had bigs who couldn't shoot but provided defense & rebounding and screened for their shooters. They move the ball a lot. Sabonis is not even a 3PT shooter that you'd be worried about because he's not a volume shooter nor a good one.
    They also screen and pass a lot. Sabonis is elite at those things. Je will als willingly play the 5 and show up to play with no conplaints.

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    They also screen and pass a lot. Sabonis is elite at those things. Je will als willingly play the 5 and show up to play with no conplaints.
    You're calling out bare minimum stuff for a guy who has been a career mediocre needle mover yet will make $45M on average over this current contract, and regularly ends his season in the lottery or first round KO.

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

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    You're calling out bare minimum stuff for a guy who has been a career mediocre needle mover yet will make $45M on average over this current contract, and regularly ends his season in the lottery or first round KO.
    Vs an old guy on a similar contract who doesnt want to play the position he should play, cant spread the floor, and cant ne counted on to even play.

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

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    Vs an old guy on a similar contract who doesnt want to play the position he should play, cant spread the floor, and cant ne counted on to even play.
    Davis' shortcomings related to injuries are WELL KNOWN and accepted by every single NBA fan on planet Earth. Meanwhile you're completely oblivious to just how mediocre Sabonis is and have not accepted a single criticism. You dismissed them all.

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

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    Davis' shortcomings related to injuries are WELL KNOWN and accepted by every single NBA fan on planet Earth. Meanwhile you're completely oblivious to just how mediocre Sabonis is and have not accepted a single criticism. You dismissed them all.
    Yes i dismiss sabonis as a mere role player. Kind of ridiculous

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by GOBB View Post
    Funny to see two idiots in the other thread acting like “day to day” Davis has no trade value. But saying this is a fair value. Guess his aging and health matters none.
    The theoretical package proposed by the Warriors is low key garbage lol

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    Vs an old guy on a similar contract who doesnt want to play the position he should play, cant spread the floor, and cant ne counted on to even play.
    Yet he's played his position this whole time, and AD and Dray make a lot of sense on defense, and Steph/AD P&R would go hard too. Sabonis is spreading the floor with his 1-2 3PT attempts per game and his 1 attempt from mid-range? You understand he takes like 2-4 shots outside of 10 ft per game, right? AD actually shoots way more jump shots.

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe View Post
    Yet he's played his position this whole time, and AD and Dray make a lot of sense on defense, and Steph/AD P&R would go hard too. Sabonis is spreading the floor with his 1-2 3PT attempts per game and his 1 attempt from mid-range? You understand he takes like 2-4 shots outside of 10 ft per game, right? AD actually shoots way more jump shots.
    The difference is the other team will let davis take jump shots. You have to defend sabonis since unlike davis he can make them

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

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    The difference is the other team will let davis take jump shots. You have to defend sabonis since unlike davis he can make them
    Around 10% of his shots come from mid-range (from beyond 10 ft to the 3PT line) and he takes like 12-14 shots a game.. When he shoots he's wide open or there's no time on the clock. AD takes contested jumpers all the time (25-30% of his shots and he takes like 17-18 FGA) and he's ok at them, not as consistent as he was in his prime but he won a damn championship going nuclear from middy and he has streaks where he's making them all the time so people respect his shot way more. You could live with leaving Sabonis open because he's not a volume jump shooter, you wouldn't give AD space to shoot open jump shots all game. Another thing is that the Warriors aren't great at getting to the FT line and neither is Sabonis really, AD puts more pressure on the opposing defense at the rim and draws a lot of fouls.

    Sabonis had the 1 season (last year) of going over 40% from 3 on just a little over 2 attempts a game. That's him at his career-best. Outside of that he's made less than half a three per game on average on a mediocre 3PT%, so teams wouldn't even be worried about his shot like that if it came down to a Playoff series, he's also never shot well in the Playoffs and doesn't even have much Playoff experience to speak of. The only time the Kings made the Playoffs with him he took 5 threes in 7 games and made one (2023). I don't know what spacing you're talking about tbh.

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

    Quote Originally Posted by ImKobe View Post
    Around 10% of his shots come from mid-range (from beyond 10 ft to the 3PT line) and he takes like 12-14 shots a game.. When he shoots he's wide open or there's no time on the clock. AD takes contested jumpers all the time (25-30% of his shots and he takes like 17-18 FGA) and he's ok at them, not as consistent as he was in his prime but he won a damn championship going nuclear from middy and he has streaks where he's making them all the time so people respect his shot way more. You could live with leaving Sabonis open because he's not a volume jump shooter, you wouldn't give AD space to shoot open jump shots all game. Another thing is that the Warriors aren't great at getting to the FT line and neither is Sabonis really, AD puts more pressure on the opposing defense at the rim and draws a lot of fouls.

    Sabonis had the 1 season (last year) of going over 40% from 3 on just a little over 2 attempts a game. That's him at his career-best. Outside of that he's made less than half a three per game on average on a mediocre 3PT%, so teams wouldn't even be worried about his shot like that if it came down to a Playoff series, he's also never shot well in the Playoffs and doesn't even have much Playoff experience to speak of. The only time the Kings made the Playoffs with him he took 5 threes in 7 games and made one (2023). I don't know what spacing you're talking about tbh.
    The bubble!

    You are assuming that sabonis as a top option is the same as sabonis as the 3rd option. He will be open and he can hit them . Not sure how anyone thinks having only 1 or 2 3 pt shooters on the floor in 2025 is a good idea. And again that is assuming davis is even on the floor which is highly questionable.

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

    The line for davis just got shorter.

    There is an expectation in some corners, you see, that Anthony Davis and his representation at Klutch Sports will seek a contract extension from a new team if he indeed gets dealt.

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

    Sources say Golden State did discuss the pursuit of Domantas Sabonis before the 2022 trade deadline that featured Indiana shipping the Lithuanian lefty to Sacramento for a package headlined by Tyrese Haliburton. The Pacers were known at the time to be big fans of Jonathan Kuminga, leading to various discussions between the two front offices that featured current Warriors swingman Buddy Hield, former Warriors swingman Andrew Wiggins and Sabonis in various frameworks.

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

    KAT for AD, who says no?

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    Default Re: My offer for Anthony Davis from the Warriors

    Responding to a few points made.

    For those saying the deal isn't enough, keep in mind we're not talking about prime AD. He missed most of the last 2 years with injuries. 3 years ago, he played only 51 games. So we are talking about a busted up AD. Granted he's a difference maker when healthy.

    For those saying I played up Kuminga, well yes- I pitched him how I thought the Warriors should- in terms of his potential. I didn't say he Would be MVP- but that he could conceivably. More likely a top offensive player. As for those pointing out his IQ and team play liabilities- yes those are issues. Sometimes a promising player just needs a new environment and coaches to reach their potential.

    The Warriors do need a big man. They're getting throttled on the boards, they don't have the defensive presence, they need someone to set the screens freeing up their shooters like they used to. Davis has the width and strength for those kinds of screens.

    Kerr's preference of small ball isn't serving them well against the big physical teams. And Horford isn't quite it.

    Some good comments about substitutions, unprotected, Kuminga challenging Cooper for leadership, etc.

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