Last night showed how Lebron can't defeat max defensive attention (carry scoring load

[3ba11]

He never successfully carried the scoring load on the championship level, so he never defeated max defensive attention, and he never carried weak help over top teams (never beat a top 5 SRS team with weak scoring & efficiency from a sidekick).

The reason that he can't carry the scoring load vs top teams is because excessive ball-dominance can't beat top teams.. Since he can't carry the scoring load/defeat max defensive attention, he needs equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention.. These equal-scoring partner are usually franchise players like Wade, Kyrie, AD or Luka, who all matched or led Lebron in PPG for a playoff run.. Lebron's need for franchise players means that he can't win with "normal" rosters of 1 franchise player, aka organically.. Furthermore, his style of imposing spot-up roles further hampers the chemistry needed to win organically.

[StrongLurk]

Lebron has all the stats.

[3ba11]

Lebron has all the stats.

So does Stockton, Kareem, and Kevin Willis.. So stats are nothing... It's the per game leaders that shows the best in each category (aka APG shows that Magic is a better passer than Stockton, but career assists doesn't show this)

[tontoz]

OP wants to carry Lebron's load.

[sdot_thadon]

OP wants to carry Lebron's load.

Sheeeit....wants?

[Hey Yo]

Last night showed why he's the GOAT.

[Full Court]

Last night showed why he's the GOAT.

^That's exactly the problem. Bronie fluffers have loooowwwwwwwwww standards.

[3ba11]

Last night showed why he's the GOAT.

Playing at a prime Jae Crowder level makes you goat now?.. Essentially, being a Lebron fan entails finding new ways to demonstrate dumbness

[bdonovan]

"LeBron can't win with total scrubs as teammates and therefore is not good"

Generally, teams need multiple top players to win. It's a competitive league. That's just how it goes.

[warriorfan]

Bron joined up with the 2nd and 4th highest PER in the league only to lose while being outscored by Jason Terry in the NBA finals.

That would be like if Michael Jordan joked up with Magic Johnson and Hakeem Olijuawon and got out scored by John Starks

[3ba11]

"LeBron can't win with total scrubs as teammates and therefore is not good"

Generally, teams need multiple top players to win. It's a competitive league. That's just how it goes.

Similar to Jordan's 6 rings, Curry won inn 2015 and 2022 by defeating max defensive attention, aka carrying the scoring load and a team of secondary producers.

These secondary producers averaged 10-20 ppg, while Lebron enjoys elite-producers and franchise players at sidekick that had their own team and average 25-30 ppg - they often led Lebron in scoring for entire playoff runs (11', 20', 25', 16').. Lebron had 3 sidekicks that were considered top 4 in the league at the time he joined them (Wade, AD, Luka).. This doesn't compare to secondary producers like Klay, Pippen, or Pau (who wasn't All-NBA until he joined Kobe).. Lebron's other sidekick (Kyrie) was equal-scoring partner for the 16' Playoff run and outplayed the MVP in the Finals.. This constitutes "getting carried" compared to the help Jordan or Curry got from their teammates.

[3ba11]

Remember that carrying the scoring load MATTERS because carrying the "star" category of scoring requires less stars, which allows GM's to get the right defenders/others, aka elite roster construction.. So Lebron prevents elite roster construction compared to guys that can carry the scoring load (non-ball-dominators) like Curry, MJ, Kobe or Duncan.

[StrongLurk]

Lebron's load is all OP thinks about.

[SouBeachTalents]

OP wants to carry Lebron's load.

Lebron's load is all OP thinks about.

This.

[3ba11]

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carrying the scoring load MATTERS because carrying the "star" category of scoring requires less stars, which allows GM's to get the right defenders/others, aka elite roster construction.. So Lebron prevents elite roster construction compared to guys that can carry the scoring load (non-ball-dominators) like Curry, MJ, Kobe or Duncan