Curry winning a chip before KD is a terrible narrative

[tontoz]

Obviously, my point is that what I'm saying actually applies context, and the existing narrative doesn't have any context and is wrong.

So your bolded is not a valid response to my thread.

And then again, yet AGAIN, you go PAST 2015 to the 2016 year with Kd vs Curry. There is no point is going to 2016 because the narrative I am talking about is related to 2015 and before...

The problem is that when people look at a players history they dont just pick out one or two years and ignore the rest if they have any sense.

[StrongLurk]

The problem is that when people look at a players history they dont just pick out one or two years and ignore the rest if they have any sense.

No worries, I can tell you don't have any real rebuttals about this since it's obvious KD would've won in 2012 if Wade/Bosh were injured.

[tontoz]

No worries, I can tell you don't have any real rebuttals about this since it's obvious KD would've won in 2012 if Wade/Bosh were injured.

If the Warriors were healthy they would have won the championship in 2016 too but it doesn't matter because it is hypothetical. I don't need to rebut things that didn't actually happen.

[highwhey]

OP's also acting like it's 100% guaranteed the Cavs win if they're fully healthy in 2015, when while I'd assume most would say it's likely, it's not a certainty. The facts are they literally lost the only game Kyrie played in that series, then the Cavs had to squeak out a 7 game series the following year with Curry having the worst series of his career. I will agree the Cavs likely win if healthy in 2015, but it's not the guarantee OP is making it out to be.

The greatest irony of all this is, even if KD never joins the Warriors, and neither won a title in the 2010's, Curry would've STILL won a title before KD by winning in 2022 anyway

it's not about guarantees though, it's about the fact that the warriors were not battle tested to their limit because their competition faced major injuries. then the cavs winning in 2016 against all odds just made it clear that lebron could dominate curry. when the warriors stacked the deck, it was obviously unfair but the stigma remained.

curry still wakes up in the middle of the night to this block:

[StrongLurk]

If the Warriors were healthy they would have won the championship in 2016 too but it doesn't matter because it is hypothetical. I don't need to rebut things that didn't actually happen.

The 2016 Warriors were far healthier than the 2015 Cavs. To be comparable, Klay and Dray would have to miss the 2016 finals. How's Curry doing going up against the 2016 Cavs without them? We all know that's a clear L for Curry in a similar situation.

Why so defensive anyways? We know KD wins in 2012 without Bosh/Wade playing, so I'm just showing how silly the narrative is of "Curry won before KD" yada yada.

[tontoz]

The 2016 Warriors were far healthier than the 2015 Cavs. To be comparable, Klay and Dray would have to miss the 2016 finals. How's Curry doing going up against the 2016 Cavs without them? We all know that's a clear L for Curry in a similar situation.

Why so defensive anyways? We know KD wins in 2012 without Bosh/Wade playing, so I'm just showing how silly the narrative is of "Curry won before KD" yada yada.

Wade was first team All-NBA before Lebron joined him. Bosh made more All-Star games than Dray and Klay combined.

Those two missing games would be a much bigger loss than Dray/Klay or Love/Kyrie.

The Warriors beat the Cavs with Kyrie playing 43 minutes in game 1 in 2015.

[Yes or No]

The Warriors didn't lose the 2016 Finals because of health. They lost the 2016 Finals because Draymond is an emotional retard and LeBron saw a chance to exploit that fact and he took it.

He gets suspended a game. The game after that he plays timid af because he sees what can happen. The game after that is game 7 and at that point it's too late, the Cavs had the momentum, and it still came down to a coin toss.

Anyone who watched that series is extremely aware of the fact that the Warriors coughed up 2 games in a row (5 and 6) because of Draymond's behavior which was 100% preventable.

edit: It's also probably worth noting that the league office is less likely to suspend him there if the Warriors were the ones down 3 to 1 in the series.

[Full Court]

Not only did Curry win a chip before KD,










He also won a chip after KD.

Facts.

[StrongLurk]

Wade was first team All-NBA before Lebron joined him. Bosh made more All-Star games than Dray and Klay combined.

Those two missing games would be a much bigger loss than Dray/Klay or Love/Kyrie.

The Warriors beat the Cavs with Kyrie playing 43 minutes in game 1 in 2015.

Kyrie broke his knee before the game ended. Maybe they win if that doesn't happen. Also Love still didn't even play at all.

Also you aren't helping yourself at all with your posts lol. Thanks for agreeing that KD would have won in 2012 if the Heat were injured.

[tontoz]

Kyrie broke his knee before the game ended. Maybe they win if that doesn't happen. Also Love still didn't even play at all.

Also you aren't helping yourself at all with your posts lol. Thanks for agreeing that KD would have won in 2012 if the Heat were injured.

Kyrie played 43 minutes in that game.

Comparing 1st team All NBA Wade to Kyrie or Love just shows how lame your argument is. Aside from the fact that it is hypothetical nonsense Wade would be a much bigger loss to a team.

KD is 37 years old ffs. He's had plenty of time to prove himself without Curry. He clearly misses his bus driver.

[StrongLurk]

Kyrie played 43 minutes in that game.

Comparing 1st team All NBA Wade to Kyrie or Love just shows how lame your argument is. Aside from the fact that it is hypothetical nonsense Wade would be a much bigger loss to a team.

KD is 37 years old ffs. He's had plenty of time to prove himself without Curry. He clearly misses his bus driver.

Wade was 3rd team all-nba in 2012. Bosh did not make any all-nba in 2012. In 2015, Klay and Kyrie were both 3rd team all nba.

So...you're literally wrong again...

Also Kyrie was hobbled a little going into the 2015 finals. He was terrible in the Hawks series because of it. He didn't randomly break his knee in game 1 on the finals...he was already hurt a little going in and it backfired on him.

Face it, we know KD would've won in 2012 if he had the same injury luck Curry had in 2015, and frankly the entire NBA would be drastically different if that happened.

[Hey Yo]

One still shot photo ftom 3 straight Finals runs doesn't really doesn't mean anything.

It's like Spurs retards saying they would've beat GS just because they had like a 15pt lead in the 2nd quarter of game 1 and then Kawhit got injured.

[warriorfan]

One still shot photo ftom 3 straight Finals runs doesn't really doesn't mean anything.

It's like Spurs retards saying they would've beat GS just because they had like a 15pt lead in the 2nd quarter of game 1 and then Kawhit got injured.

This screen shot isn’t some sort of an outlier, it was of the norm.

Cavs defensive gameplan was let the others and KD get theirs, but not gonna let Steph bury them

[Hey Yo]

OP's also acting like it's 100% guaranteed the Cavs win if they're fully healthy in 2015, when while I'd assume most would say it's likely, it's not a certainty. The facts are they literally lost the only game Kyrie played in that series then the Cavs had to squeak out a 7 game series the following year with Curry having the worst series of his career. I will agree the Cavs likely win if healthy in 2015, but it's not the guarantee OP is making it out to be.

The greatest irony of all this is, even if KD never joins the Warriors, and neither won a title in the 2010's, Curry would've STILL won a title before KD by winning in 2022 anyway

Then Cleveland won the next 2gms. There's no argument to be made that losing game 1 meant Kyrie was somehow the reason or Cavs were better without him. I like their chances if Kyrie was available all series and especially if Love was also.

[Hey Yo]

This screen shot isn’t some sort of an outlier, it was of the norm.

Cavs defensive gameplan was let the others and KD get theirs, but not gonna let Steph bury them

Then show some more of these kind of still shots if it was the norm. No other teams decided to try this alleged defense throughout those 3 runs? Only the Cavs allegedly did thus throughout tfe series?

Where's the 5th man for GS in that pic? Cavs supposed to guard someone whose not even past half court?