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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Major misconceptions regarding the labor dispute between Owners and NBA's Players
Originally Posted by gasolina
Here are two key issues from this article:
Still, less than 30 percent of NBA teams' revenue comes from shared revenue, compared with about 70 percent for National Football League franchises.
The Pacers' local TV revenue is about $5 million below the league average, Morris said. On top of that, the Pacers must pay the former owners of the defunct ABA team in St. Louis part of their TV revenue.
That deal was brokered as a condition of four ABA teams-including the Pacers-merging into the NBA in 1976. The NBA didn't want St. Louis, so the four merging ABA teams agreed to pay the St. Louis team owners one-seventh of their annual TV revenue, in exchange for the owners' folding their team. That deal costs the Pacers $4 million to $5 million annually, suggesting the team pulls in $28 million to $35 million a year from television. The arrangement has no expiration, although the Pacers and NBA have tried to negotiate a settlement.
And honestly, if Indiana can't turn a profit after all these years, it never will. The franchise should be contracted.
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Clipper Nation Soldier
Re: Major misconceptions regarding the labor dispute between Owners and NBA's Players
Originally Posted by iamgine
I think this is more about making a system where the difference in advantage is as low as possible. That can indeed be changed.
If the NBA wants to baby small market teams then they need to assign each team a financial adviser and force them to follow rules which increase profits. If some small market teams can be popular and win titles.. and make profit... then all of them can IF they follow the same blueprint. Maybe not to the same degree but it is possible.
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DEY DA-PRESSED
Re: Major misconceptions regarding the labor dispute between Owners and NBA's Players
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
Who are the small market players that left and went to LA and Dallas? Almost all the players they have were acquired through drafts and trades. At least all the big names they have. Superstars almost never leave the original team that drafted them. NBA has probably the least amount of superstar movement in all the sports leagues.
I was talking about the Matt Barnes and the Ron Artests. Both players were pretty decent roleplayers. To see them join a stacked team like the Lakers via the MLE in consecutive years was frustrating for other teams.
IIRC Shawn Marion got to Dallas via trade when they were over the cap for freaking Jerry Stackhouse. I know it was a legit trade, but if there was a hard cap, then Dallas wouldn't even be in a position to trade for Marion in the first place.
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DEY DA-PRESSED
Re: Major misconceptions regarding the labor dispute between Owners and NBA's Players
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
And honestly, if Indiana can't turn a profit after all these years, it never will. The franchise should be contracted.
You contract a franchise like Indiana in the birthplace of basketball (not sure) and you're looking at a PR nightmare. This will turn into a big city vs. small town america war.
The hard part is, the NBA can only move forward, and any mistakes made in the past, including granting franchises to the small markets, needs to be dealt with correctly.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Major misconceptions regarding the labor dispute between Owners and NBA's Players
Originally Posted by gasolina
You contract a franchise like Indiana in the birthplace of basketball (not sure) and you're looking at a PR nightmare. This will turn into a big city vs. small town america war.
The hard part is, the NBA can only move forward, and any mistakes made in the past, including granting franchises to the small markets, needs to be dealt with correctly.
Birthplace of basketball is actually Massachusetts. I understand Indiana is big on its basketball at the high school and college level, but they have never supported their pro team they way they do the other levels.
I am sorry the truth hurts, but basketball is a sport that does much better in the big city areas, and trying to make sure that teams are kept in small cities is a losing business plan. If a business starts up a product line, and it doesn't make money, it closes down that product line. Look at HP with its tablets. Same should go for sports franchises. If they are situated in a city that just can't support a team due to economics, then it should contract or move the team instead of continuously dumping money into a losing business.
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Retired Bloggissist
Re: Major misconceptions regarding the labor dispute between Owners and NBA's Players
Originally Posted by Math2
Age limit of 19?!?!? Great, more and more busts, more failed prospects, and YAY! MOre dilution!
You do realize these changes already occurred right? Before that CBA was implemented, any US player could enter the draft after high school and international players could enter the draft at 18.
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Re: Major misconceptions regarding the labor dispute between Owners and NBA's Players
Originally Posted by Sarcastic
It will never be because no one wants to play in Cleveland, Milwaukee, Sacramento, etc unless they have to.
If you implement a hard cap system, it may end up having a completely counter intuitive effect, and the big market teams may become even more desirable as the players may seek new revenue streams and look to the big markets to secure endorsement deals.
It may or may not be. Players get endorsement in small markets. Lebron in Cleveland get tons of endorsement. Anyway, the big market team won't be able to afford too many stars.
Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
If the NBA wants to baby small market teams then they need to assign each team a financial adviser and force them to follow rules which increase profits. If some small market teams can be popular and win titles.. and make profit... then all of them can IF they follow the same blueprint. Maybe not to the same degree but it is possible.
That's really not the kind of system we're talking about here.
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