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Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by It's A VC3!!!
Wow your so dumb and uninformed. So averaging a double double is based on your team rather then your skill? Why didn't petro average 8 rebounds when playing alongside sheldan? Geez how naive haters are. He is still due to average around 10 rebounds a game. He's not going to stop rebounding just because he has a good team around him.
Yes. When no other person on your team tries to get rebounds and you are the only person playing close to the basket: it is easier to get rebounds. Elementary basketball.
Johan Petro and Shelden Williams don't belong on an NBA roster, period. Humphries is a solid rotation big, worth about 4 million per year. He's not even that much better than he was during his Toronto days, but back in those days there were studs on his roster like Rasho Nesterovic, who provided superior impact to Humphries in every single way.
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Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by wang4three
He's overpaid, but I think it's fine. We're trying to become a force for the ECF here. Either you commit to that goal or you're just wasting everyone's time. IF we decided to give him this contract when we were BAD and destined to be BAD, like the previous two seasons, I'd be inflamed. But if we're trying to get to the ECF and he's the best option to help us do that? Go ahead spend the money. Two years will go by and if he's not worth it, he can moved as an expirer the way Rashard was moved this year.
It's more illegitimate when bystanders are arguing that there are 30-40 people who can do what Kris did the last two seasons. There were 10 other teams that had less than 30 wins last year, and only two of them averaged anything close to a double double, the Kings (Cousins) and Pistons (Monroe). Thinking anyone can average a double double on a bad team is laughable and inane.
Yeah, Nets appear to be pushing all the chips in. I guess when you step back and see how much money they've shelled out this offseason, Kris at $12mil over 2yrs is right on par. I laughed at them considerably when they struck out on clearing all that cap space for the prize winner Travis Outlaw only to get rid of him a year later. Having Deron Williams, Gerald Wallace, Joe Johnson as your big 3, resigning Brook Shields and Kris Kardashian? Not bad. Ton of cash being dished out and owed, but this was the team that put up the Blueprint for a Dynasty mural. Cant talk about it and not be about it.
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Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by It's A VC3!!!
Wow your so dumb and uninformed. So averaging a double double is based on your team rather then your skill? Why didn't petro average 8 rebounds when playing alongside sheldan? Geez how naive haters are. He is still due to average around 10 rebounds a game. He's not going to stop rebounding just because he has a good team around him.
Listen, anyone with eyes and half a brain who has watched Hump (like you know, last season) is going to think this is an overpay, by the way if you want to call a person 'dumb' maybe get 'you're' correct, before the irony gets too heavy.
Was it a bad move? We'll see, knee jerk reactions especially without quality information and context, such as what the FO is planning to do with this, are pretty useless.
Carry on
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Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Prok reminds me of the old Mark Cuban. Spend to spend.
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Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by LJJ
Yes. When no other person on your team tries to get rebounds and you are the only person playing close to the basket: it is easier to get rebounds. Elementary basketball.
Johan Petro and Shelden Williams don't belong on an NBA roster, period. Humphries is a solid rotation big, worth about 4 million per year. He's not even that much better than he was during his Toronto days, but back in those days there were studs on his roster like Rasho Nesterovic, who provided superior impact to Humphries in every single way.
There were 11 teams under 30 wins this year. Only two of those teams had a guy that averaged a double-double: The Nets with Kris and the Kings with Cousins. Then you had the Pistons and Warriors who had Greg Monroe and David Lee that were very close to a double-double.
If it was so easy, then how come all the other bad teams don't have guys that do it, if there are 30-40 options available to them?
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Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
I don't see an argument really.
Is he overpaid? YES. Welcome to the NBA.
Is it a bad contract? NO. It doesn't limit their flexibility and losing him would basically put the a 4 short of a starting lineup.
So good signing, bad money, but justifiable.
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Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by LA_Showtime
Prok reminds me of the old Mark Cuban. Spend to spend.
Not exactly. He is very liberal with the spending, but it's not as if we're adding pieces that don't fit like Cuban used to do with adding guys like Jamison, Antoine Walker, who didn't address a need. Each of the players we've got this off-season has addressed a need.
Overpaying? Probably. But if we don't make the ECF (or within reasonable distance), it would've been a failure. I think our chances are fairly decent.
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Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by wang4three
Not exactly. He is very liberal with the spending, but it's not as if we're adding pieces that don't fit like Cuban used to do with adding guys like Jamison, Antoine Walker, who didn't address a need. Each of the players we've got this off-season has addressed a need.
Overpaying? Probably. But if we don't make the ECF (or within reasonable distance), it would've been a failure. I think our chances are fairly decent.
I meant the part where he overpays everyone, not where he randomly brings together a bunch of talent that doesn't fit.
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Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
This team isn't a real threat to Miami, Boston or Chicago (w/ Rose) though so not sure if all the spending is worth it.
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Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by LA_Showtime
I meant the part where he overpays everyone, not where he randomly brings together a bunch of talent that doesn't fit.
In this case nothing is held against him. Did you expect him to say no to Joe? Or when the Nets failed in getting D12, and Lopez already had two MAX offers on the table? Did you expect him to let Lopez go and Hump go, and Gerald go? He had to fork over money to KEEP these players. He didn't jusy agree to pay for them for no reason. If he didn't "overpay", Hump, Gerald, and Brook would be gone. Thus Deron would be gone too. His spending is not bad in this situation.
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Re: Kris Humprhies is staying with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Originally Posted by wang4three
There were 11 teams under 30 wins this year. Only two of those teams had a guy that averaged a double-double: The Nets with Kris and the Kings with Cousins. Then you had the Pistons and Warriors who had Greg Monroe and David Lee that were very close to a double-double.
If it was so easy, then how come all the other bad teams don't have guys that do it, if there are 30-40 options available to them?
Because those teams have more than one rebounding player on the roster, and don't have rebounding hustle players like Humphries playing 35 minutes a game.
Give a terribly average player like Drew Gooden 35 minutes a game on the Nets playing next to Shelden Williams and he would average a double double. You are kidding yourself if you disagree.
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Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
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Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Boy the lockout was a real success, wasn't it.
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Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
Looking for a reason why Kris Humphries is getting $12 million a year? Just look at the cap math from the Brooklyn Nets’ perspective ... and then turn your gaze toward Florida.
If they’re thinking about trading for Dwight Howard after Jan. 15, when Brook Lopez is trade eligible -- and most certainly, they are -- then signing Humphries to a short contract of this size makes all kinds of sense.
The reason is that it allows the Nets to take back much bigger contracts from Orlando in a trade. Paying Humphries $12 million means that the combination of Humphries, Tyshawn Taylor and Reggie Evans can be used to take back $18.6 million in contracts from Orlando -- which conveniently, is exactly enough to swallow the contracts of Orlando veterans Glen Davis, Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Quentin Richardson and clean the Magic’s books going forward.
Do that, then put Lopez and MarShon Brooks in a deal for Howard (again, just clearing enough salary from the New Jersey end to take back his salary from Orlando), throw in all the same draft picks New Jersey would give in the original deal, and the trade still works. In fact, it works better, since the Nets can swallow a bit more salary in this one than in the deal mooted over the summer.
As for the fine print, Brooks almost certainly would be routed to a third team for another draft pick for Orlando, but the trade would be cap-legal regardless. Routing Humphries to a third team would prove more problematic, but again it would be cap-legal if it happened as long as all the goodies went back to the Magic. After all this, the Magic would have a signed frontcourt of Humphries and Lopez and, if they cut Hedo Turkoglu, have max cap space in 2013.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...eal-look-south
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Re: Kris Humphries is re-signing with Nets on two-year deal valued at $24 million
..and back on the Howard to Nets-bandwagon ESPN is. Every move is made to acquire Dwight. You
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