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ISH's Negro Historian
Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Elgin Baylor, what the hell!
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10 plus years on ISH
Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by brownmamba00
Mikan
Oh yeah...that's right I change my answer.
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Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by crisoner
F@ggot, Troll, blah blah.
Longevity...Career stats...stronger era?
If LeBron's career ended today he would not of had the vital impact that ANY of the players that I mention have had on the game. KG...changed the game....Jerry West...changed the game...Mosses...changed the game...Karl Malone...change the game. These players have influenced and put a stamp on the NBA with their careers while LeBron is just on his way to doing that with his first title and you want to jump the shark and put him already ahead of these guys? NO! You are disrespecting their legacy and the game.
And stop being freaking MAD and grow up when you debate with someone. You have some knowledge kid don't need to drop F bombs to show your point. That's what trolls do.
Again LeBron is well on his way if everything stays 100 with him in terms of health and luck. But putting him in front of any of the above i mention is disrespectful to the game itself.
F@ggot....just kidding.
No shit I have knowledge I actually got to see Most of these players play. I can't tell whether you're being a Homer and overrating Mr NBA logo but he hasn't done anything NBA CAREER WISE and Play level to be over LeBron. If he played in this era I'd easily take Wade who has more to his game then Mr Logo playing in the 70's. Moses has a big sausage and has Identical accomplishmets in terms of rings/Mvps, but like you said you want to base players of just accomplishments? LeBron has more and that's a fact. I don't overrate prior players to current players just because of how good they were back at the time. As far as talent lebron is top 10 and he's over Moses. But looks like were going to have to agree to disagree.
Give me your adress for I can woop your ass and shoot you f@ggot
[COLOR="White"]In bold would be what I would say if I was lebron23[/COLOR]
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BostonCeltics
Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by BlackVVaves
For those voting for the other great forwards of All Time in Kevin Garnett and Julius Irving...
What do you believe their cases are over Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, and Bob Pettit?
Personal opinion, i believe it goes KG>Charles>Karl
Just from watching them play. KG's defensive power is what pushes him above these two for me, hes a juggernaut on defense and that cant be discounted and it normally is defensive players arnt given the credit for their ability on both ends. And its also the difference between being a good defender and being a excellent all time defender as well. The only player given enough credit for his defense is Bill Russell, but even that is based more on his rings. There's not another player off the list i would put above KG, and MOSTLY every one above are people i agree with that are better.
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NBA Legend
Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Last edited by pauk; 08-28-2012 at 08:55 PM.
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Kobe Apostle
Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by BlackVVaves
It's between Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, and Bob Pettit.
Just haven't decided which I'd take here yet.
A little brief stat observation for those who are familiar with the play of all three already, either through watching directly or, in Pettit's case, research and game footage.
Karl Malone
1985-2004
25 PPG | 10 RPG | 4 APG | 52% FG
Best season: 29 | 12 | 3 | 53%
2 MVPs
Charles Barkley
1984-2000
22 PPG | 12 RPG | 4 APG | 54% FG
Best season: 28 | 12 | 3 | 59%
1 MVP
Bob Pettit
1954-1965
26 PPG | 16 RPG | 3 APG | 44% FG
Best season: 28 | 20 | 3 | 45%
2 MVPs, 1 ring (in 1958, leading the Hawks past Bill Russell and the Boston Celtics.
The battle of the Power Forwards. Hmmm...
Julius Erving has a strong case as well
His NBA accomplishments:
NBA champion (1983)
NBA Most Valuable Player (1981)
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Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by Kews1
Personal opinion, i believe it goes KG>Charles>Karl
Just from watching them play. KG's defensive power is what pushes him above these two for me, hes a juggernaut on defense and that cant be discounted and it normally is defensive players arnt given the credit for their ability on both ends. And its also the difference between being a good defender and being a excellent all time defender as well. The only player given enough credit for his defense is Bill Russell, but even that is based more on his rings. There's not another player off the list i would put above KG, and MOSTLY every one above are people i agree with that are better.
I hear you. I'd take KG over Chuck personally, but not over Malone. People forget the defensive beast Malone became later in his career.
Now, Dr. J is one of my three favorite players All Time. But, I don't see his case over Malone or Pettit.
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Kobe Apostle
Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by pauk
Now that's a guy with a 40+" vertical. And Jlolber wants us to believe Wilt had a 50" one
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NBA Legend
Last edited by pauk; 08-28-2012 at 09:04 PM.
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Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
You can put any top PF at this spot from Garnett, Barkley, Dirk, Malone, and Pettit.
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DON'T FEED THE TROLL
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Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Julius Erving has a strong case as well
His NBA accomplishments:
NBA champion (1983)
NBA Most Valuable Player (1981)
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The Awakening
Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
This guy:
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Re: #15 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
My only question with Malone is, was his greatness more of a product of his individual ability, or his point guard Stockton.
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