Lebron is on Jordan's level now

[gengiskhan]

Bird isn't worthy of lacing up LeBron's sneakers. Enough with this overrating of past players. Only one of them was as good as/better than LeBron, and that would be Jordan.

LeBron crushes Bird easily. He is the second greatest player to ever play the game.

damb faaaak.

Bird has 5-6 seasons of 25+ ppg double double.
Bird as 3 seasons of almost 28-30 ppg double double.

Bird is still the best SF to ever play the game.

LBJ is all time great but he aint beating Bird at anything yet.

Just check LBJ stats & Bird Stats. you'll know.

we'll talk LBJ vs Bird when LBJ actually wins 3+ rings.

GOAT SF talk is still premature. Bird is by far the greatest.

[bdreason]

Agreed. He just needs the championships now. At least 5 more...ouch.

And 5 more Finals MVP's, and 2 more MVP's, a DPOY award, and 9 more Scoring titles, and 5 more All-defensive 1st teams, and 5 more All-NBA 1st teams, and.... an NCAA title.

Then we can have a discussion.

[tmacattack33]

I love it when people say stuff like "You can't say that now...let's wait until he wins some more rings".

Wow, way to go out on a limb and use your brain. Essentially, that's like we are discussing a game and making predictions and you say "Well yeah, I think team A might win, but let me wait until I see the final score and then I'll get back to you".

[tmacattack33]

Not even close.

He is not even at Birds level btw. let alone MJ.

MJ's level is 32.5 / 8 / 8.

Larry Bird's level is 30 ppg 10+rpg double double.

LBJ is definitely playing unbelievable but 27 ppg isnt exactly 30 ppg or 32.5 ppg.

MJ > Bird > LBJ

WTF?

Bird never once averaged 30 ppg and 10 rpg. He got 30 (29.9 actually) and 9 one year...but according to you, 9 isn't exactly 10 now is it.

And Bird was usually at 25 ppg and 10 rpg anyway...so i have no clue what u are talking about

[tmacattack33]

Also, MJ's level is not 32/8/8...LOL...he got 8 assists and 8 rebounds per game one season in his whole career. His norm was around 6.5 rebounds and 5 assists.

[Smoke117]

Lebron is definitely on Jordan's level. That doesn't mean he's better or greater, but he's certainly on the same tier.

[bdreason]

I love it when people say stuff like "You can't say that now...let's wait until he wins some more rings".

Wow, way to go out on a limb and use your brain. Essentially, that's like we are discussing a game and making predictions and you say "Well yeah, I think team A might win, but let me wait until I see the final score and then I'll get back to you".

Predicting someone is going to win 6 titles and 6 finals MVP's after he manages to win 1 in 3 tries is beyond optimistic. How about we wait until he gets at least 3 titles and 3 finals MVP's (half way) before we start comparing him to the GOAT's?

A more realistic comparison would be Kobe, Magic, or Bird... although he hasn't even reached that level yet. I'll never understand why people feel the need to compare every great player to MJ, while ignoring all the other great players.

[gengiskhan]

Also, MJ's level is not 32/8/8...LOL...he got 8 assists and 8 rebounds per game one season in his whole career.

damb ar$$

MJ was a lone all-star in that 1988-1989 team. You put Wade + Bosh, both all-star STARTERS on 1989 Bulls, 4-5 MJ seasons will be 30+ ppg + 10+ rpg or apg DOUBLE DOUBLES!

Respect Nikka. MJ got to 8 / 8 as only All-Star in the line up.

Bird had mchale + Parish. LBJ has Wade + Bosh.

Pippen & grant were still developing in 1989.

[bdreason]

Also, MJ's level is not 32/8/8...LOL...he got 8 assists and 8 rebounds per game one season in his whole career. His norm was around 6.5 rebounds and 5 assists.

MJ also has 9 NBA Scoring Titles. LeBron has 1.

[Smoke117]

Shut up gengis. Do you really think anyone actually takes you seriously? You and Andgar are the two biggest, stupidest, ****ing Jordan stans on the board. There is a reason I have you ignored...you say NOTHING of merit, EVER.

[gengiskhan]

MJ also has 9 NBA Scoring Titles. LeBron has 1.

10 scoring titles. its 7 straight + retirement + 3 straight.

[Sheik1287]

No one is on Jordan's level. I don't why people keep comparing the two. Lebron is more like Magic Johnson in the way he is an all around player. But he still needs to match the amount of championships as the other greats.

[tmacattack33]

damb ar$$

MJ was a lone all-star in that 1988-1989 team. You put Wade + Bosh, both all-star STARTERS on 1989 Bulls, 4-5 MJ seasons will be 30+ ppg + 10+ rpg or apg DOUBLE DOUBLES!

Respect Nikka. MJ got to 8 / 8 as only All-Star in the line up.

Bird had mchale + Parish. LBJ has Wade + Bosh.

Pippen & grant were still developing in 1989.

If you put Wade and Bosh on the 88 Bulls, MJ would have less possessions and it's more likely that his stats would go down rather than up.

[tmacattack33]

MJ also has 9 NBA Scoring Titles. LeBron has 1.

Scoring isn't even Lebron's best ability.

[Mr. Jabbar]

westbrook has the iq of a monkey