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Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
MJ
Jabbar
Wilt
O'neal
Duncan
Magic/Bird
Bird/Magic
Oscar
Lebron
Kobe/Hakeem
Hakeem/Kobe
Russell
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National High School Star
Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
My top 5 GOAT list is players I've watched in context, live, real time, no replays ... no acting like I've seen Russell, Wilt, Jabbar, Oscar, West:
1. MJ
2. LeBron
3. Shaq
4. Hakeem
5. Kobe
That's GIES (Greatest I've Ever Seen), not GOAT. I don't know why people insist on calling their lists "GOAT" lists when they're not.
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Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
Its very concerning to see a lot of people have Magic over Bird on their lists.
I guess people don't care who was considered the better player during their playing days. Magic has really worked his way up peoples lists after retirement.
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Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
career list:
mj
br
kaj
wilt
bird
magic
shaq
duncan
Lebron
Hakeem
Kobe
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College superstar
Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
MJ
Jabbar
Bird
Magic
Wilt
Shaq
Duncan
Russell
Lebron
Olajuwon
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National High School Star
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I usually hit open layups
Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
Originally Posted by Round Mound
Why cause Sir Charles is there and Not Kobe?
Dominance > Popularity Contests, Votes, Fan Rankings, Media Hype etc
These Players Changed Their Positions Forever. Kobe? Just a Wannabe Copy Cat
This wannabe you are talking about.. he still copied his way to 5 championships, 2 as the undisputed leader, which is more than you can ever say about your donut loving hero.
My list:
1) MJ
2) Kareem
3) Russell
4) Magic
5) Wilt
6) Bird
7) Kobe
8) Duncan
9) Shaq
10) Hakeem
Honorable mention: West, Lebron, Robertson
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College superstar
Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
Originally Posted by havoc33
This wannabe you are talking about.. he still copied his way to 5 championships, 2 as the undisputed leader, which is more than you can ever say about your donut loving hero.
My list:
1) MJ
2) Kareem
3) Russell
4) Magic
5) Wilt
6) Bird
7) Kobe
8) Duncan
9) Shaq
10) Hakeem
Honorable mention: West, Lebron, Robertson
LMFAO at Kobe being 7. You said Kobe 5 rings 2 as undisputed leader, guess who the undisputed leader was in the other 3? No. 9
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I usually hit open layups
Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
Originally Posted by plowking
Its very concerning to see a lot of people have Magic over Bird on their lists.
I guess people don't care who was considered the better player during their playing days. Magic has really worked his way up peoples lists after retirement.
That's actually a very good point. I have Magic ranked higher myself, but I'll admit it's debatable. It would seem like people have forgotten that Bird won three straight MVP's and 2/3 championships while Magic was in his prime.
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The GOATS
Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
Jordan
Kobe
Magic
Kareem
Bird
Shaq
Duncan
Wilt
Russell
Lebron
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I usually hit open layups
Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
Originally Posted by AintNoSunshine
LMFAO at Kobe being 7. You said Kobe 5 rings 2 as undisputed leader, guess who the undisputed leader was in the other 3? No. 9
So because Shaq was the no.1 option for one more championship, he should be ranked higher? Please. I think most people agree in ranking Kobe higher than Shaq. Shaq is actually the biggest underachiever of all time. With his physical tools he should be the GOAT. Kobe on the other hand might actually have overachieved. If not for his work ethic, his list of achievements would be far less. Kobe's role during the first threepeat cannot be understated. He was their playmaker and go to guy late in games, and was the Lakers best player for the first three rounds in the 2001 Playoffs.
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College superstar
Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
Originally Posted by havoc33
So because Shaq was the no.1 option for one more championship, he should be ranked higher? Please. I think most people agree in ranking Kobe higher than Shaq. Shaq is actually the biggest underachiever of all time. With his physical tools he should be the GOAT. Kobe on the other hand might actually have overachieved. If not for his work ethic, his list of achievements would be far less. Kobe's role during the first threepeat cannot be understated. He was their playmaker and go to guy late in games, and was the Lakers best player for the first three rounds in the 2001 Playoffs.
Are we rating greatness or are we rating hardest working player?? Shaq was the undisputed leader on a 3-peat dynasty, during that span we saw him utterly dominated the league on a level that's unseen other than MJ himself.
Kobe has never come remotely close to that level of domination, he's a great volume scorer and that's about it. There is literally zero arguement you can have, just at but he's the hardest working player
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BostonCeltics
Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
Originally Posted by havoc33
I think most retarded people agree in ranking Kobe higher than Shaq.
fixed
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Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
Originally Posted by AintNoSunshine
Kobe has never come remotely close to that level of domination, he's a great volume scorer and that's about it
Kobe is far more than just a scorer. You are a ****ing moron.
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College superstar
Re: YOUR top 10 players of all-time
Originally Posted by Jacks3
Kobe is far more than just a scorer. You are a ****ing moron.
Thanks retard. He has never ran an offense like Lebron, Tmac, he's very fortunate to play along side Shaq and under the triangle. He's still their best playmaker but the entire offense doesn't fall on his shoulder.
He has never been an amazing rebounder either, plays defense every once in awhile when he feels like it, largely overrated in this regard.
He's great but no way he's top 10 all time.
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