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Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by KyleKong
This is a really cool and interesting stat. Damn Bird and Duncan, .
To be fair to them, they also had to deal with David Stern. He hated them. So home court advantage didn't really mean anything. They were playing 5 vs 9.
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#Treble
Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Only the 657,258,258 reason why MJ is the unanimous GOAT.
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RIP P
Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Jordan's Bulls: 24-0 with homecourt and 5 series won without homecourt
That's my GOAT
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Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by TheBigVeto
To be fair to them, they also had to deal with David Stern. He hated them. So home court advantage didn't really mean anything. They were playing 5 vs 9.
Yes, David Stern is the reason Bird was swept by the Bucks in 83.
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Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by Young X
Jordan's Bulls: 24-0 with homecourt and 5 series won without homecourt
That's my GOAT
Also, if I'm not mistaken, never lost a game in the first round on his six championship runs.
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Wilt Davis
Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
the reason nobody hates on tim duncan is because nobody cares about tim duncan
nobody cares.
hes a nobody. never was important to basketball. flew under the radar his whole career. had no fans. no pressure. no impact
not legendary.
good team mate. great player... but not on the level of a shaq, hakeem, kobe, or even lebron
And yet we're all taking Duncan over Kobe to start our franchise with.
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Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by Marchesk
And yet we're all taking Duncan over Kobe to start our franchise with.
i would to
but that doesnt make him the better player. just a more rare position to be great at
big men have to be drafted first in a fantasy all time draft because the gap between a legendary big and the average big is much greater than the gap between a legendary guard and the average guard
how many centers can put up 20ppg... hardly any
how many guards can put up 20ppg... millions
because guards are generally more skilled and tallented. they grew up learning how to play the game
while bigs are mostly made up of guys who didn't give a sh*t about basketball and were pushed into it to make a living
if i take kobe and have to wait till round 2 to take a center after 29 other teams draft. i'm gonna have to select a guy like neil johnston, jack sikma, or clyde lovelette
but if i take shaq, duncan, hakeem, kareem wilt or russell
then by round 2 i'l still have a guy like earl monroe or clyde drexler to select
and a team of drexler/kareem will beat kobe/sikma
so it has nothing to do with duncan being better. you select a big because theyre not as great as guards for the most part
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College superstar
Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
and a team of drexler/kareem will beat kobe/sikma
so it has nothing to do with duncan being better. you select a big because theyre not as great as guards for the most part
Huh?
Maybe it's because bigs impact the game more than guards. That's why the top 20 is dominated by bigs over the other 3 positions.
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with God-given ass
Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
12 seems like an arbitrary number. I'm guess you have LeBron at 12 and you wanted to include him?
Random, but interesting stat.
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Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by JimmyMcAdocious
12 seems like an arbitrary number. I'm guess you have LeBron at 12 and you wanted to include him?
Random, but interesting stat.
Just couldn't decide who was number 13, 14 and 15 (Moses, West, Dr. J, Baylor, Dirk.......)
And for the record.
1. MJ (greatest player)
2. Russell (greatest winner)
3. Wilt (greatest individual force)
4. Kareem (greatest longevity)
5. Magic (greatest playermaker)
6. Bird (greatest mind)
7. Kobe (greatest player part 2)
8. Duncan (greatest winner part 2)
9. Shaq (greatest individual force part 2)
10 Hakeem (greatest longevity part 2)
11. Lebron (greatest playermaker part 2)
12. Oscar (greatest mind part 2)
One way of doing it anyway.
Last edited by Magic 32; 08-18-2013 at 09:23 PM.
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7-time NBA All-Star
Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
you select a big because theyre not as great as guards for the most part
Originally Posted by KG215
You're a special kind of stupid.
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Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by Magic 32
Bird = 7 (1980, 1982, 1983, 1985, 1988, 1990, 1991)
Duncan = 6 (2001, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2011, 2012)
Shaq = 5 (1994, 1995, 2004, 2005, 2010)
Wilt = 5 (1961, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1973)
Kareem = 4 (1973, 1974, 1977, 1981)
Oscar = 4 (1962, 1965, 1973, 1974)
Lebron = 3 (2009, 2010, 2011)
Magic = 3 (1981, 1990, 1996)
Hakeem = 2 (1985, 1987)
Kobe = 2 (2004, 2011)
Russell = 1 (1958)
MJ = 0
dang bird
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Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by blood yes
And then they say Larry Bird is better than LeBron, LMFAO.
Jordan>Lebron>Bird>>>>>>>Kobe
THis is no disrespect to bird, he was a great player, but this shows it
fixed
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Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by Magic 32
Russell = 1 (1958)
Russell didn't lose that series. He got injured and couldn't finish it. He missed 2 1/2 games of a 6 game series.
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Re: Losing with home court advantage (top 12 players of all time)
Originally Posted by jlip
Russell didn't lose that series. He got injured and couldn't finish it. He missed 2 1/2 games of a 6 game series.
Didn't know that
Still going to keep as it is, just because of what he said about Wilt not playing at the end of game 7
Last edited by Magic 32; 08-18-2013 at 10:17 PM.
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