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Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by CHi1PriDe
Bosh before joining the heat, he was a 24/11player which is pretty beastly and Probably the 2nd best PF next to dirk and wade was probably the 2nd best sg next to kobe.
Majority of the chicago fans wanted bosh to come to the chi. if not, stat was the 2nd choice but we ended up with boozer which ended up being better
Last season Bosh averaged less than Deng and Boozer? Are they both superstars?
Bosh is a good player, but he's not even close to being a superstar.
Wade is a superstar. Anyone who says different is an idiot.
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Local High School Star
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by 9erempiree
This guy comes back with a new and improved game. He looks better than ever and if he had Miami's loaded team, he could easily be in Lebron's spot. In my opinion, he's the greatest player in basketball today.
Lebron may have a better career so far but Rose is the better player.
The torch will be passed this year.
Rose
Lebron
Kobe
Durant
CP3
This clown in banned
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NBA Legend
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by CHi1PriDe
Bosh before joining the heat, he was a 24/11player which is pretty beastly and Probably the 2nd best PF next to dirk and wade was probably the 2nd best sg next to kobe.
Majority of the chicago fans wanted bosh to come to the chi. if not, stat was the 2nd choice but we ended up with boozer which ended up being better
Bosh was a beast on the Raptors. He seems happy to just plod along on the Heat now though.. Some nights he can still go off, has a great jumper and decent post moves.. Shame hes wasting his prime as a 3rd/4th option
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Verticle?
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by CHi1PriDe
Rose's defensive ratings > westbrook
Thats because Chicago collectively is better defensively as a team. Rose is a poor defender.
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NBA Legend
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by aj1987
Last season Bosh averaged less than Deng and Boozer? Are they both superstars?
Bosh is a good player, but he's not even close to being a superstar.
Wade is a superstar. Anyone who says different is an idiot.
He WAS, but yeah currently hes a role player, 3rd to 4th option most nights..
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Local High School Star
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by aj1987
Last season Bosh averaged less than Deng and Boozer? Are they both superstars?
Bosh is a good player, but he's not even close to being a superstar.
Wade is a superstar. Anyone who says different is an idiot.
WTF? Are you retarded? Before lebron joined Bosh, Bosh was killing. Who gives a shit about last season, lebron obviously decreased bosh's potential
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Local High School Star
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by plowking
Thats because Chicago collectively is better defensively as a team. Rose is a poor defender.
The bulls actually get better defensively better with rose playing while he was healthy and the thunder got worse on defense with westbrook playing.
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Big Sexy
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
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Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by CHi1PriDe
Rose's defensive ratings > westbrook
Yeah and Durant had like the best defensive ratings in the league last year but I'm not taking him over Paul George or Tony Allen
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Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by CHi1PriDe
WTF? Are you retarded? Before lebron joined Bosh, Bosh was killing. Who gives a shit about last season, lebron obviously decreased bosh's potential
Are all Chicago fans retarded? Lebron makes Bosh grab less rebounds and it's Lebron's fault that most big men in the NBA make Bosh their bitch, right? Lebron made Bosh go 0-5 in Game 7 of the NBA Finals, right? Name ONE superstar who scored 0 points in a Finals game in his prime.
You must've never seen Bosh play. Shaq was calling Bosh the Rupaul of big men long before he joined the Heat. The guy is as soft as a marshmallow.
If Chris Bosh is a superstar, so are Deng (17/7/5) and Boozer (20/11/4).
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Verticle?
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by CHi1PriDe
The bulls actually get better defensively better with rose playing while he was healthy and the thunder got worse on defense with westbrook playing.
No they don't.
All stats and metrics showed the opposite.
Back in his MVP season, they were better defensive with CJ Watson on the court with all other players staying the same.
EDIT: And a one time All NBA 2nd team player is not a superstar. Its really not up for debate. Latrell Sprewell for example purposes has made more all NBA teams.
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Down with GLOBALISM
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by plowking
Thats because Chicago collectively is better defensively as a team. Rose is a poor defender.
Not poor, but pretty average.
He gets beaten off the dribble too often and sometimes loses his man off a high screen. He does however stay in front of his man on most occasions and does put energy into staying with his man somewhat even off the ball, which is what you can't say about "poor defenders".
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Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Rose winning that BS MVP was the worst thing that could happen to Bulls fans.
People like to hate on any award winners like mad and try everything to discredit their performance. Unlike many NBA great players, Rose gives you many opportunities to talk shit about him and makes his defenders look silly.
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Big Booty Hoes!!
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by poido123
Not poor, but pretty average.
He gets beaten off the dribble too often and sometimes loses his man off a high screen. He does however stay in front of his man on most occasions and does put energy into staying with his man somewhat even off the ball, which is what you can't say about "poor defenders".
Derrick Rose is underrated defensively. I've always given him credit for what he does defensively. Nobody else seems to. He's much better than average. The problem is, because he's one of the least valuable defensive players on his team, people assume he's just all out bad. He isn't. He's quite good actually. You just don't realize it by comparison.
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Gentleman Desperado
Re: Derrick Rose the best player in the League...
Originally Posted by coin24
Bosh was a beast on the Raptors. He seems happy to just plod along on the Heat now though.. Some nights he can still go off, has a great jumper and decent post moves.. Shame hes wasting his prime as a 3rd/4th option
nikka got two rings yo
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