Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...

[3ball]

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honestly, damn near everyone.... too many to even list


Parish, Worthy, Bosh, Ginobili, rod strickland, rasheed wallace, detlef schrempf, mark price/larry nance (can't decide), bill laimbeer, kevin duckworth, sean elliot, ray allen/glenn robinson/terrell brandon (can't decide), jamal mashburn/jimmy jackson (can't decide), barkley (on rockets), tim hardaway (on warriors with mullin/webber), otis thorpe, eddie jones,


I'd say more than half the 3rd options in the league at least...

Now what about the Bulls' 2nd three-peat?... Who was the 3rd option?... Rodman??... Kukoc??... Wennington??... What a joke of offensive talent the Bulls had

[kennethgriffin]

hes better than odom

[3ball]

hes better than odom

Not on days Odom decided to show up for work, which was about every other game when he was in his prime..

You remember how Odom was... One night he was 5 points and 4 rebounds, and the next night he's literally a top 10 player in the league - doing EVERYTHING - rebounding, defense, and killer offense - do-it-all point-forward, sick, nasty shit.

You know what I'm talking about if you're a real laker fan

Odom should be on the list, but like I said - there's too many to make a real, legit list

[Smoke117]

The meltdown is real.

[kennethgriffin]

Not on days Odom decided to show up for work, which was about every other game when he was in his prime..

You remember how Odom was... One night he was 5 points and 4 rebounds, and the next night he's literally a top 10 player in the league - doing EVERYTHING - rebounding, defense, and killer offense - do-it-all point-forward, sick, nasty shit.

You know what I'm talking about if you're a real laker fan

Odom should be on the list, but like I said - there's too many to make a real, legit list

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[3ball]

[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]

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[kennethgriffin]

the bulls were built on defense and they had

jordan/pippen/grant for the first three peat ( all 3 arguably the best defensive players at their positions )

and jordan/pippen/rodman for the 2nd three peat ( all 3 arguably the best defensive players at their positions )


this is why the bulls won... 3rd option scoring statistics dont matter one tiny bit

comparing them to other teams who didnt have 40 shots locked up by the top 2 guys is ludicrous to say the least

[kennethgriffin]

Here were Horace's accolades alongside Jordan:

2nd Team All-Defense (1993)

*crickets*


I'm not sure you're a real Laker fan if you don't know how talented Odom was - he played ALL 5 POSITIONS..

Truthfully, EVERYONE should be aware of how talented Odom was - he was a do-it-all, point-forward - he played Horace's position better than Horace, AND he played every other position on the floor as well.

horace was primarily a defensive player and that was why the bulls won titles

that was his value more than anything

so shut the f*ck up

nobody makes 4 defensive teams by accident. especially when theyre not hyped/living off a popularity vote

[Smoke117]

That Odom was a better scorer than Horace Grant is common knowledge.

[3ball]

the bulls were built on defense and they had

by you saying they were built on defense, you concede that they had no offense (except MJ's goat offense)

obviously, MJ had shit for help compared to his peers.

[kennethgriffin]

That Odom was a better scorer than Horace Grant is common knowledge.

Grants scoring = 6.7/10

odoms scoring = 7.9/10


Grants defense = 9.2/10

odoms defense = 5.3/10


overall Grant = 15.9/20

overall odom = 13.2/20

[Smoke117]

Grants scoring = 6.7/10

odoms scoring = 7.9/10


Grants defense = 9.2/10

odoms defense = 5.3/10


overall Grant = 15.9/20

overall odom = 13.2/20

If thats odom's defense than Kobe's must be a 4 or lower...because Odom was a much better defensive player than Kobe during the championships. And why the **** am I letting you two knuckleheads get me involved in this? I'm not going to referee this battle of the retards.

[kennethgriffin]

by you saying they were built on defense, you concede that they had no offense (except MJ's goat offense)

obviously, MJ had shit for help compared to his peers.

they had allot of role player scoring

tons of guys throughout their 6 title runs that were sacrificing

they didnt have a legendary 2nd option scorer

they didnt have a legendary 3rd option scorer

but they had really good ones


what they had in place of that was LEGENDARY defense


this was the absolute main reason jordan got away with chucking 30 shots a game without disrupting his teams chemistry


if jordan tried leading the league in scoring on a title team with any other genetic makeup... he would have failed miserably

[3ball]

Grants scoring = 6.7/10

odoms scoring = 7.9/10

Grants defense = 9.2/10

odoms defense = 5.3/10

Can you imagine Jordan getting a hold of Odom and getting him to play like the all-star version of Odom EVERY NIGHT?

Honestly, Odom was more talented than Pippen... Infact, Pippen probably turns out like Odom if he doesn't play alongside MJ:


[COLOR="Blue"]JERRY KRAUSE, BULLS GM[/COLOR]:

“Would Pippen have been great someplace else?

Michael absolutely killed Scottie in practice every day for his first two years. Mike just tore Pip up. He made Pip learn how to compete and forced him into playing hard. [COLOR="Red"]Had there not been someone to challenge Scottie like that, I’m not sure what would’ve happened to him... No, Michael made him a man.[/color]

Michael made him a man and Doug [Collins] did a great job with him in his first year. And he - Collins - had Michael to beat on him for a year every day in practice and Michael beat him to death.."

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nb...ory?id=5453558

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[kennethgriffin]

If thats odom's defense than Kobe's must be a 4 or lower...because Odom was a much better defensive player than Kobe during the championships. And why the **** am I letting you two knuckleheads get me involved in this?

well... odom has 0 All defensive achievements


and kobe has the all time most All defensive 1st team achievements in world history


so i think kobe at the very least could be argued as slightly better than odom on the defensive end... perhaps?