Kobe

[warriorfan]

Love stats Pre-LeBron - [COLOR="Lime"]26/13/2/59% [/COLOR]TS
Bosh stats Pre-LeBron - [COLOR="lime"]24/11/2/59%[/COLOR]TS
Pau stats Pre-Kobe - [COLOR="red"]19/8/3/59%[/COLOR] TS

Before joining Kobe and LeBron, Love and Bosh were superior players to Pau Gasol.

Kobe was able to take a lesser Gasol as a second option and win chips

LeBron needed greater players than Gasol as his third option to win his



LeBron James had much more help than Kobe Bryant

[Kblaze8855]

I wish you would decide once and for all if stats alone make someone better or not.

[ArbitraryWater]

I wish you would decide once and for all if stats alone make someone better or not.

[warriorfan]

I wish you would decide once and for all if stats alone make someone better or not.

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[ImKobe]

Lebron ever had a worse 2nd option than Gasol?

Gasol before Kobe - 1x all-star, 0 Playoff wins

Big Z before Lebron - 1x all-star, Playoff win
Wade before Lebron - 6x all-star, All-NBA, alpha ring
Irving before Lebron - 2x all-star, All-NBA
Love before Lebron - 3x all-star, All-NBA

[PickernRoller]

I think this is not argued by anyone except LeTards and we ignore those.

It's a historical fact but it's nice to be reminded of it once in a while.

Kobe did more with less.

[Hey Yo]

When has Gasol avg. worse than 8-7 in a 7gm Finals series and still won?

How many times has Gasol been held scoreless in a Finals game and still won the series??

Gasol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love and Bosh

[bigkingsfan]

Kobe WAS the 2nd option.

[Kblaze8855]

I’m not a big stats guy....I’m framing the argument in terms that some of our lower iq posters will be able to understand.

I’m just saying you and others will act like numbers alone made love and bosh elite players when they had both regular season and playoff success that DeMar DeRozan would be ashamed of....

Then turn around and say let’s go eye test when guys you don’t **** with have nasty numbers and better success than Bosh and Love ever dreamed on their own teams.

Just feels time to pick one.

Is it numbers or eye test/effectiveness?

You seem to swing to each extreme and forget you were just on the other side....

[warriorfan]

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[ImKobe]

When has Gasol avg. worse than 8-7 in a 7gm Finals series and still won?

How many times has Gasol been held scoreless in a Finals game and still won the series??

Gasol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love and Bosh

So Pau never had a bad game or a series now?

How many 30+pt games did Pau have as a 2nd option past the 2nd round of the Playoffs?

[Objectivity]

Conclusion: Kobe elevates his teammates and makes the whole greater than the sum of its parts, Bran does the exact opposite.

[Hey Yo]

So Pau never had a bad game or a series now?

How many 30+pt games did Pau have as a 2nd option past the 2nd round of the Playoffs?

Which bad Finals series did Pau avg the same or worse than 8-7 on 36% shooting and still won the title?

Which bad Finals game did Pau score ZERO points and still won the game?

[Kblaze8855]

Reread my last post and work on your reading comprehension you stupid piece of shit. Stop derailing my thread with your nonsense. Shit.

So....you intentionality make what you call a low iq argument....obviously pointed at our LeBron trolls basing greatness off nothing but numbers....

Then you go back on your own argument saying Kobe is better than LeBron despite his worse numbers.

Meaning....you based your first argument on a premise you only pretend to believe.

Yet....you still seem to think it

[warriorfan]

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]So....you intentionality make what you call a low iq argument....obviously pointed at our LeBron trolls basing greatness off nothing but numbers....

Then you go back on your own argument saying Kobe is better than LeBron despite his worse numbers.

Meaning....you based your first argument on a premise you only pretend to believe.

Yet....you still seem to think it