Michael Jordan's Vertical Revealed

[eliteballer]

When I started working with Michael Jordan in 1989, his vertical jump was 38 inches. By today’s standards, that might not even get you drafted in the top ten; Andrew Wiggins reportedly had a 44” vertical jump before he was drafted No. 1 overall in the 2014 NBA Draft. Eventually we got MJ up to 42”—and then 48”—using the training program which later became my book JUMP ATTACK. But we weren’t specifically training for vertical jump; we trained for overall explosiveness and skill, and the vertical increase was just a by-product of the training.

http://www.si.com/edge/2014/10/16/ti...nt-isnt-enough

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Although I find it hard to believe Jordan's vertical went UP in the 90's.

[CavaliersFTW]

http://www.si.com/edge/2014/10/16/ti...nt-isnt-enough

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That sounds like complete bullshit to plug that dudes book, and capture the readers attention for the rest of his fluff article. Michael Jordan is on record in the 90's saying he didn't do anything to train his vertical outside of what any normal kids did ... he ran and jumped a lot as a kid, didn't really worry about it beyond that, he just was a naturally good jumper. Michael Jordan if anything, had his highest vertical in the 80's not the 90's. His highest jumps are clearly done prior to this dudes 1989 claim of "working" with Jordan. 48" vertical my ass, that has always been hard to believe to me, let alone believing he achieved this zenith in the 90's. 38" vertical in the 80's claim is almost just as laughable.

[DonDadda59]

Tim Grover bullshitting to sell his hocus pocus book. Jordan's vertical was measured in '83 when he was at UNC:

Abstract:

MICHAEL JORDAN=92S VERTICAL JUMP. =20
Krugh J, LeVeau B. University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel =
Hill, NC.

PURPOSE: The purpose of this study, which was part of an advanced =
master=92s motion analysis class project in 1983, was to determine =
Michael Jordan=92s maximum vertical jump.
=20
SUBJECT: Michael Jordan=20

METHODS: Surface markers: Left lateral malleolus, left femoral =
epicondyle, left greater trochanter, left pelvic crest, and right distal =
phalanges of digits 2 and 3 of the hand.

Tasks (in order) were:=20
Vertical reach while standing flat-footed - baseline
Vertical reach during a jump from standing
Vertical reach during a jump from running
Vertical reach during a 1 hand dunk=20
Vertical reach during a 2 hand dunk

All tasks, except baseline vertical reach were done with free swing of =
the upper limb(s). Equipment / instrumentation: Camera, lighting, =
markers, meter stick, and standard basketball. Location: Fetzer =
Gymnasium, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

DATA ANALYSIS:
Distance measurements were analyzed by comparison to a meter stick in =
view of the camera. Displacement measurements of reach (pelvis) involved =
measurement of vertical height to the tip of fingers 2 and 3 (pelvis) =
during a task minus vertical height to the tip of fingers 2 and 3 =
(pelvis) during bilateral flat-footed stance. Velocity measurements were =
analyzed by dividing vertical height distance traveled divided by time =
taken for the tasks. A VanGuard Motion Analyzer was used to analyze =
motion frame by frame.

RESULTS:=20
Maximum measurements:=20
Vertical reach while standing flat-footed 93.67 in.
Floor to pelvic crest while standing 49.00 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a jump from standing 35.93 in.
Vertical displacement of the pelvis during a jump from running 38.07 in.
Vertical velocity during a jump from running 701.00 o/sec.=20
Vertical reach displacement during a jump from running 45.76 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a 1 hand dunk 41.70 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a 2 hand dunk 40.93 in.

During the vertical reach from standing, push from the floor was with =
both feet. During the vertical reach during a jump from running, push =
from the floor was with one foot and momentum of the body, two upper =
limbs, and one lower limb was used to the maximum.=20

CONCLUSION / CLINICAL RELEVANCE: Maximum displacement for vertical reach =
was achieved with a jump from a running start, a 2 hand dunk, a 1 hand =
dunk, and a jump from standing, respectively. This is consistent with =
use of momentum of the body and limbs to assist with the vertical =
displacement. Michael Jordan=92s vertical jump ability during several =
tasks provides a standard with which athletic achievement by others can =
be compared.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pr...rt-212070.html

So unless his vertical went from 46 to 38 then back all the way up to 48... Grover is bullshittin.

[eliteballer]

Tim Grover bullshitting to sell his hocus pocus book. Jordan's vertical was measured in '83 when he was at UNC:

Abstract:

MICHAEL JORDAN=92S VERTICAL JUMP. =20
Krugh J, LeVeau B. University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel =
Hill, NC.

PURPOSE: The purpose of this study, which was part of an advanced =
master=92s motion analysis class project in 1983, was to determine =
Michael Jordan=92s maximum vertical jump.
=20
SUBJECT: Michael Jordan=20

METHODS: Surface markers: Left lateral malleolus, left femoral =
epicondyle, left greater trochanter, left pelvic crest, and right distal =
phalanges of digits 2 and 3 of the hand.

Tasks (in order) were:=20
Vertical reach while standing flat-footed - baseline
Vertical reach during a jump from standing
Vertical reach during a jump from running
Vertical reach during a 1 hand dunk=20
Vertical reach during a 2 hand dunk

All tasks, except baseline vertical reach were done with free swing of =
the upper limb(s). Equipment / instrumentation: Camera, lighting, =
markers, meter stick, and standard basketball. Location: Fetzer =
Gymnasium, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

DATA ANALYSIS:
Distance measurements were analyzed by comparison to a meter stick in =
view of the camera. Displacement measurements of reach (pelvis) involved =
measurement of vertical height to the tip of fingers 2 and 3 (pelvis) =
during a task minus vertical height to the tip of fingers 2 and 3 =
(pelvis) during bilateral flat-footed stance. Velocity measurements were =
analyzed by dividing vertical height distance traveled divided by time =
taken for the tasks. A VanGuard Motion Analyzer was used to analyze =
motion frame by frame.

RESULTS:=20
Maximum measurements:=20
Vertical reach while standing flat-footed 93.67 in.
Floor to pelvic crest while standing 49.00 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a jump from standing 35.93 in.
Vertical displacement of the pelvis during a jump from running 38.07 in.
Vertical velocity during a jump from running 701.00 o/sec.=20
Vertical reach displacement during a jump from running 45.76 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a 1 hand dunk 41.70 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a 2 hand dunk 40.93 in.

During the vertical reach from standing, push from the floor was with =
both feet. During the vertical reach during a jump from running, push =
from the floor was with one foot and momentum of the body, two upper =
limbs, and one lower limb was used to the maximum.=20

CONCLUSION / CLINICAL RELEVANCE: Maximum displacement for vertical reach =
was achieved with a jump from a running start, a 2 hand dunk, a 1 hand =
dunk, and a jump from standing, respectively. This is consistent with =
use of momentum of the body and limbs to assist with the vertical =
displacement. Michael Jordan=92s vertical jump ability during several =
tasks provides a standard with which athletic achievement by others can =
be compared.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pr...rt-212070.html

So unless his vertical went from 46 to 38 then back all the way up to 48... Grover is bullshittin.

Verts are measured from standstill, not running...and they didn't even test it that way? That info sounds just as dubious.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Tim Grover bullshitting to sell his hocus pocus book. Jordan's vertical was measured in '83 when he was at UNC:

Abstract:

MICHAEL JORDAN=92S VERTICAL JUMP. =20
Krugh J, LeVeau B. University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel =
Hill, NC.

PURPOSE: The purpose of this study, which was part of an advanced =
master=92s motion analysis class project in 1983, was to determine =
Michael Jordan=92s maximum vertical jump.
=20
SUBJECT: Michael Jordan=20

METHODS: Surface markers: Left lateral malleolus, left femoral =
epicondyle, left greater trochanter, left pelvic crest, and right distal =
phalanges of digits 2 and 3 of the hand.

Tasks (in order) were:=20
Vertical reach while standing flat-footed - baseline
Vertical reach during a jump from standing
Vertical reach during a jump from running
Vertical reach during a 1 hand dunk=20
Vertical reach during a 2 hand dunk

All tasks, except baseline vertical reach were done with free swing of =
the upper limb(s). Equipment / instrumentation: Camera, lighting, =
markers, meter stick, and standard basketball. Location: Fetzer =
Gymnasium, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

DATA ANALYSIS:
Distance measurements were analyzed by comparison to a meter stick in =
view of the camera. Displacement measurements of reach (pelvis) involved =
measurement of vertical height to the tip of fingers 2 and 3 (pelvis) =
during a task minus vertical height to the tip of fingers 2 and 3 =
(pelvis) during bilateral flat-footed stance. Velocity measurements were =
analyzed by dividing vertical height distance traveled divided by time =
taken for the tasks. A VanGuard Motion Analyzer was used to analyze =
motion frame by frame.

RESULTS:=20
Maximum measurements:=20
Vertical reach while standing flat-footed 93.67 in.
Floor to pelvic crest while standing 49.00 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a jump from standing 35.93 in.
Vertical displacement of the pelvis during a jump from running 38.07 in.
Vertical velocity during a jump from running 701.00 o/sec.=20
Vertical reach displacement during a jump from running 45.76 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a 1 hand dunk 41.70 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a 2 hand dunk 40.93 in.

During the vertical reach from standing, push from the floor was with =
both feet. During the vertical reach during a jump from running, push =
from the floor was with one foot and momentum of the body, two upper =
limbs, and one lower limb was used to the maximum.=20

CONCLUSION / CLINICAL RELEVANCE: Maximum displacement for vertical reach =
was achieved with a jump from a running start, a 2 hand dunk, a 1 hand =
dunk, and a jump from standing, respectively. This is consistent with =
use of momentum of the body and limbs to assist with the vertical =
displacement. Michael Jordan=92s vertical jump ability during several =
tasks provides a standard with which athletic achievement by others can =
be compared.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pr...rt-212070.html

So unless his vertical went from 46 to 38 then back all the way up to 48... Grover is bullshittin.

Grover trying to sell books.

[mehyaM24]

anyway , ive said repeatedly that jordan's leaping ability is GOAT-like. i know for a fact he had AT LEAST a 40" vert after the stories kenny smith told - and the footage you saw his rookie year with chicago.

[mehyaM24]

Like I've said in the LeBron thread:



Around 37-40 inches.. IMO just shy of 40. Not LeBron level, but still very elite. But of course MJ fans will try to discredit Tim Grover.

one pic doesn't mean that is his PEAK VERT, you imbecile. did you and samurai ride the same short yellow bus?

[oarabbus]

inb4 15 pages of 3ball posting the image of Jordan's mouth below the rim and claiming it proves a 46" vert

[j3lademaster]

Assuming MJ was 6'6 in shoes, a 48' vert would put the top of his head half a foot over the rim. Just putting it into perspective for all the people who like to exaggerate vertical leap out there. I swear if i had a nickel for every time some dude with a ~28' vert who can dunk added an imaginary 8-10' to their vert....

[Cali Syndicate]

inb4 15 pages of 3ball posting the image of Jordan's mouth below the rim and claiming it proves a 46" vert

please, no.

[oarabbus]

please, no.

We can only hope.

[Cali Syndicate]

We can only hope.

that image, I hate it.

[Kblaze8855]

Verts are measured from standstill, not running...and they didn't even test it that way? That info sounds just as dubious.

I don't know...that looks rather official. Id trust those numbers(if not made up last week) over anyones estimates.

And verts have been measured many ways. A lot of people go ith one step vertical. The NBA did for a while. They listed Antoinio Mcdyess with an official 47 inch vertical on his league page back in the day off a one step test.

Really....people want to know how high you can get up. If a guy has a 40 inch vertical on the move im not mad if he claims he can jump 40 inches.

Playing basketball...hes probably gonna be moving when he jumps isn't he? Not like people just explode 40 inches on stand still rebounds or blocks on a regular basis.

[3ball]

We can only hope.

even if you don't think he is mouth-level, you can't deny that his eyes clear the rim easily.

[Random_Guy]

lol seriously a 48 inch verticle lol