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Titles are overrated
There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
I know its too early to be sure but.....how do you think this plays out?
Im only counting unrestricted free agents who would probably justify a "Breaking news" kinda reaction when they pick where to land. I figure thats....
*no order*
1.KD
2.Leonard
3.Kyrie
4.Jimmy Butler
5.Klay
6.Cousins
7.Middleton
8.Tobias Harris
9.Kemba
10.Vucevic
With Cousins arguably off that list and into this next one with
Randle
Mirotic
Bledsoe
Deandre Jordan(option)
Dragic if healthy(He was an all star last season)
Millsap if Denver doesnt pick up his 30 million dollar option
Id say we have at least 9 max guys up there if we dont count cousins yet....and disregard that even role players can get 100+ million these days. Im not counting guys who might get the max....im talking guys someone is sure to offer it to because you cant offer less and have them take you serious in a league with non all stars making 27 million a season.
So...
Lets set a minimum of 30 million per contract. Some will be more than that...and teams can always make a little more space if they must. Say the clippers want an extra 3 million to hit 2 full max slots..they trade jerome Willims to a team under the cap so they dont have to match the salary. Cut 3 million...maybe take back a future pick of some sort. Theres room to move if you want. And some teams have 2-3 guys on team options giving them even more options. Bare minimum....all these teams have room for a 30 million contract or the ability to get to 35-40 if they HAD to even after accounting for a first round picks salary....
Nets can have 2 slots(1 if they extend Russell...2 if he takes the qualifying offer to become unrestricted in 2020)
Knicks will have at least 2
Jazz have one if they let Favors walk
Bulls have 2(let Parker walk they are at 67 million in space)
Lakers have 1 no matter what happens with AD
Pacers have 40 million and like 8 free agents so it will be somewhat less...but if they want a max player they can pay him first.
Hawks have 52-55 million
Clippers drop to 35 in salary if they let Bradley go and dont bring back Harris. Assuming they pay him like 30 million they still have room for 1 other guy and could make more room.
Philly has 50 million if Jimmy Butler opts out of his 19(which of course he will...hes worth way more than that). They could pay TJ whatever reasonable he wants and still have room for a full max player if they dont give it to Butler.
Suns have 25 million counting Oubres qualifying offer so maybe they pay him and have less....so I wont count them yet.
Kings have about 50 million
So....
12 max spots at least.
12 spots...12-15 guys who will at least have an agent ask for a max deal.
There are a lot of ways to win this offseason even if you dont get the biggest names.
So...
Lets say these 14 spots are there for the taking...
Nets
1.
2. Or Russell.
Knicks
1.
2.
Jazz
1.
Bulls
1.
2.
Lakers
1.
Pacers
1.
Hawks
1.
Philly
1. Or Butler comes back
Kings
1.
Clippers
1.
2. Or Harris returns
How would you distribute these 10 names(or 8 if you dont buy into cousins yet and fool yourself into thinking Middleton takes 20 million a season like an idiot)
1.KD
2.Leonard
3.Kyrie
4.Jimmy Butler
5.Klay
6.Cousins
7.Middleton
8.Tobias Harris
9.Kemba
10.Vucevic
If a team with 2 spots got nothing but Middleton and Kemba...thats a pretty decent offseason. Unless youre the Knicks I guess....then you get laughed at even though a top 3 pick Kemba and Middleton would at least be interesting.
Klay is the only one I dont think anyone can pry away. Once KD has his 3 rings he might be fine leaving.
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Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
We should be getting KD, and Kawhi. Instead we're probably gonna get AD and Klay cause Bran is in town.
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Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
butler re signs
KD re signs
Kyrie re signs
Klay re signs
Vucevic re signs
russell re signs
kemba re signs
Knicks
1. Cousins
2. Harris
Jazz
1. random smaller signings
Bulls
1. Middleton
Lakers
1. random smaller signings since they'll already have AD
Pacers
1. random smaller signings
Hawks
1. random smaller signings
Kings
1. random smaller signings
Clippers
1. leonard
2. random smaller signings
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Titles are overrated
Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
I think the Knicks miss out on the big names but get Kemba and one other secondary guy.
Kemba just seems like the type to be a New York legend thay no other fan base thinks was that great.
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Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
I think the Knicks miss out on the big names but get Kemba and one other secondary guy.
Kemba just seems like the type to be a New York legend thay no other fan base thinks was that great.
na its almost a certainty new york will throw a dumptruck full of cash at cousins
its just built into the knicks DNA to overpay for for washed up hobbled former superstars
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Titles are overrated
Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
Doesnt
Kemba
RJ Barrett
Cousins
Just seem like a Knicks style "We back now!" hyped lineup that wins 44 games with a few spectacular moments?
If they dont get KD or Kyrie they are gonna offer the Empire State Building to Kemba, Cousins, or Jimmy Butler.
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Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
I think the Knicks miss out on the big names but get Kemba and one other secondary guy.
Kemba just seems like the type to be a New York legend thay no other fan base thinks was that great.
IMO Kemba is going to NY
Cousins could be a good free agent for them if he gets back to his former self, which will be shown during the season.
Marc Gasol's also a free agent (final year's a player option). I could he him signing for a max salary short contract if there were some success posibilities.
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From Out Of Nowhere
Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
Doesnt
Kemba
RJ Barrett
Cousins
Just seem like a Knicks style "We back now!" hyped lineup that wins 44 games with a few spectacular moments?
If they dont get KD or Kyrie they are gonna offer the Empire State Building to Kemba, Cousins, or Jimmy Butler.
I just hope they don't spend their money on backcourt players only.
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Titles are overrated
Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
Originally Posted by chains5000
IMO Kemba is going to NY
Cousins could be a good free agent for them if he gets back to his former self, which will be shown during the season.
Marc Gasol's also a free agent (final year's a player option). I could he him signing for a max salary short contract if there were some success posibilities.
Jimmy Butler and Kemba are the two most Knickish guys out there.
Jimmy especially. The Garden would love Jimmy....but they need a real splash after this trade.
They might **** around and try to wait out KD and Kyrie and let someone else scoop up Jimmy and Kemba then it gets ugly. If they come out of this with Marc Gasol on a 2 year deal and Tobias Harris for 5 years 150 I might literally die laughing.
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From Out Of Nowhere
Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
They might **** around and try to wait out KD and Kyrie and let someone else scoop up Jimmy and Kemba then it gets ugly. If they come out of this with Marc Gasol on a 2 year deal and Tobias Harris for 5 years 150 I might literally die laughing.
That would be really bad
Butler would love being in NY, so many attention around, but would him being there affect the other FA signing? In a bad way, I mean.
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Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
Harris supposedly likes Utah as well as Mirotic. My guess is the Jazz resign Ricky and bring back Favors though. Why change what isn't working? That's the way they've always done things.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
Originally Posted by Kblaze8855
Doesnt
Kemba
RJ Barrett
Cousins
Just seem like a Knicks style "We back now!" hyped lineup that wins 44 games with a few spectacular moments?
If they dont get KD or Kyrie they are gonna offer the Empire State Building to Kemba, Cousins, or Jimmy Butler.
This would be a disaster for them.
The trade they made yesterday was good for their future, but they would ruin it with the moves above.
And, yes, it does feel very Knicks.
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From Out Of Nowhere
Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Harris supposedly likes Utah as well as Mirotic. My guess is the Jazz resign Ricky and bring back Favors though. Why change what isn't working? That's the way they've always done things.
They'll get Mirotic, overpaying.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: There are about 10 serious free agents this off season and about 12-13 max spots.
Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You
Harris supposedly likes Utah as well as Mirotic. My guess is the Jazz resign Ricky and bring back Favors though. Why change what isn't working? That's the way they've always done things.
You want Barnes, Powell, and Harris for Rubio, Exum, Thabo, and your first round pick this year?
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