Basketball reference has changed BPM

[RRR3]

2009 LeBron now has the highest single season BPM of all time. It used to be 17 Westbrook with the old formula.

[Uncle Drew]

We win AGAIN.

[Trollsmasher]

We win AGAIN.

we don't though as it put Ordan above LeBron in career average

so this new BPM sucks

[superduper]

we don't though as it put Ordan above LeBron in career average

so this new BPM sucks

And this is how Bran stans "watch" basketball.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Never was big on BPM. Its basically a box-score combined into one. RPM, RAPM and PIPM at least adjust for lineups, opponents etc.

PER isn't half bad either, if only measuring TOTAL efficiency.

[RRR3]

BPM seems to make more sense than PER. At least the old one did. Gotta get used to the new one. PER thinks Enes Kanter and Hassan Whiteside are superstars.

[LoneyROY7]

Very strong stat.

Harden has led the league in BPM the last two years and is 2nd this year.

[bullettooth]

And this is how Bran stans "watch" basketball.

Now imagine these pencil neck geeks trying to hoop.

[post]

lebron is only higher by .2 for the single season high in bpm

jordan has 4 of the top 10 single seasons and lebron has 3

stockton is now 8th all time and bird is 7th so there's two white guys in the top 10 now. lol

stockton is 3rd in career vorp now with the updated formula

pretty much every "advanced stat" i've seen has stockton as a goat level player

[Manny98]

And this is how Bran stans "watch" basketball.

This

[post]

lebron is only higher by .2 for the single season high in bpm

jordan has 4 of the top 10 single seasons and lebron has 3

stockton is now 8th all time and bird is 7th so there's two white guys in the top 10 now. lol

stockton is 3rd in career vorp now with the updated formula

pretty much every "advanced stat" i've seen has stockton as a goat level player

stockton and bird are in the top ten for career bpm not single season in case anyone was wondering what i meant

also it seems the newer advanced stats favor stockton better than the older ones like per and win shares per 48

meh

whatever

he was one of my favorite players as a kid and i don't even live in utah but i probably can't honestly say he's a top ten player of all time

[RRR3]

This

Wrong account

[bullettooth]

Wrong account

[post]

stockton and bird are in the top ten for career bpm not single season in case anyone was wondering what i meant

also it seems the newer advanced stats favor stockton better than the older ones like per and win shares per 48

meh

whatever

he was one of my favorite players as a kid and i don't even live in utah but i probably can't honestly say he's a top ten player of all time

there's a stat called raptor and jaws that says stockton is the third best player since 1976

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...past-40-years/

personally i think all these stats are a bit crazy but maybe i'm getting a little bit old. lol

[LostCause]

There's been a lot of other changes to advanced metrics this year too

RPM was changed this year. Prior years it was pretty stable and the creator of it would engage with folks who were curious how/why certain players fell into certain places

The creator left ESPN (Was hired by the Mavs, can't remember which atm). Then all of a sudden they changed the formula to whatever we have now which is pretty wild (They admitted to changing it here, just there were more changes under the hood they didn't mention or they didn't foresee just how drastic the changes were)

Because Engelmann joined the Dallas Mavericks as a senior analyst, RPM has moved in-house, with ESPN Analytics taking the lead in generating it for this and future seasons. In conjunction, we've bolstered the box-score prior with the inclusion of tracking data. The spirit of RPM remains largely the same in the new version, which you might call RPM 2.0.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...dden-nba-stars

If you check out the other hoops forums they basically wrote the stat off due to the changes.

DBPM was also affected with Ben Wallace going from 1st to 5th.

I guess it's some sort of trend?

Regardless, PIPM seems to be the best regarded publicly available "catch-all" stat for most of this season. Unless they suddenly change that one up too