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					 In today's NBA, I won't draft a shooting guard with questionable 3-point shooting
					
						
							All of the elite shooting guards in this year's draft are good 3 points shooters.
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							more skilled era requires more skill
 back in the old days stars didnt even know how to dribble with both hands like drexler or shoot a 3 pointer like mike
 
 it was a limited time
 
 modern era is different and we see it
  you need to do a lot just to get a shot. no more grocery baggers round here 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							
	Harden shoots 36% from deep. I think you would take a player like him. MJ's first 5 seasons he shot just 20%. The next 8 he shot 36%. Even if you deduct the shortened line years, he's shooting 34% in the remaining years.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by And1AllDay   more skilled era requires more skill 
back in the old days stars didnt even know how to dribble with both hands like drexler or shoot a 3 pointer like mike 
 
it was a limited time
 
modern era is different and we see it    you need to do a lot just to get a shot. no more grocery baggers round here 
 In an era like this, it's not difficult to imagine he would shoot 3pt %s similar to Harden.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							
	Harden is a horrible example because he shoots nothing but iso stepback 3s. No reason to compare any shooter to him
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by HoopsNY   Harden shoots 36% from deep. I think you would take a player like him. MJ's first 5 seasons he shot just 20%. The next 8 he shot 36%. Even if you deduct the shortened line years, he's shooting 34% in the remaining years. 
 In an era like this, it's not difficult to imagine he would shoot 3pt %s similar to Harden.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							You guys are blind if you think that players from MJ's era wouldn't evolve. In fact, they evolved in the very era they played.
 MJ's first 5 seasons: 20%
 MJ's next 8 seasons: 36%
 
 Magic's first 8 seasons: 19%
 Magic's next 4 seasons: 34%
 
 Stockton's first 5 seasons: 24%
 Stockton's next 13 seasons: 40%
 
 Bird's first 5 seasons: 31%
 Bird's next 7 seasons: 40%
 
 Drexler's first 7 seasons: 24%
 Drexler's next 8 seasons: 33%
 
 Mullin's first 6 seasons: 31%
 Mullin's next 10 seasons: 41%
 
 Vandeweghe's first 6 seasons: 28%
 Vandeweghe's next 7 seasons: 40%
 
 I could go on, but you get the point. The 3 point line was introduced in the 1979-80 season. As time went on, players increased their volume, which resulted in increased 3 point %s. Even if we assume that MJ doesn't shoot 50%, 43%, and 37% in the shortened years, then what does that number look like with a regular line, given that he shot 35.4% in 1993? 45%, 39%, 35%? You can't just assume that his numbers would fall off the map.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							
	I think you're missing my point. If the OP wouldn't take a guy like MJ (which seems to be the case), then he wouldn't take a player like Harden, just based off of percentages, which have a context to begin with.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Ben Simmons   Harden is a horrible example because he shoots nothing but iso stepback 3s. No reason to compare any shooter to him 
 I mean, no Wade, Westbrook, Harden, etc? Seems odd. Your name is Ben Simmons. No Simmons, either? Strange.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							
	Is Ben Simmons a shooting gaurd? thats news to me
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by HoopsNY   I think you're missing my point. If the OP wouldn't take a guy like MJ (which seems to be the case), then he wouldn't take a player like Harden, just based off of percentages, which have a context to begin with. 
 I mean, no Wade, Westbrook, Harden, etc? Seems odd. Your name is Ben Simmons. No Simmons, either? Strange.
   
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							Man tell me why Hoops keep sonning y’all dudes  
 For real, using Jordan as an example of a player who OP wouldn’t take because he “can’t shoot
 3s” is a new level of reaching.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							
	K, let's look at more shooting guards then
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by And1AllDay   Is Ben Simmons a shooting gaurd? thats news to me   
 Ainge's first 5 seasons: 29%
 Ainge's next 9 seasons: 39%
 
 Majerle's first 3 seasons: 31%
 Majerle's next 11 seasons: 36%
 
 Anderson's first 5 seasons: 33%
 Anderson's next 8 seasons: 38%
 
 R. Harper's first 4 seasons: 24%
 R. Harper's next 11 seasons: 30%
 
 Should I keep going or is this enough? Needless to say, players have increased 3 point percentages when their volumes began to rise. Jordan is of no exception. His highest volumes resulted in the following percentages:
 
 1990: 38%
 1993: 35%
 1996: 43%
 1997: 37%
 
 Some context will help fellas. Use it.
 
 And I know Simmons isn't a shooting guard, but Wade and Harden are, and Westbrook at least plays like one.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							
	bruh someone did the numbers if you take out his 2 wnba 3 pt line years he shot like 28% on 1,000 attempts
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by nizroc   Man tell me why Hoops keep sonning y’all dudes    
For real, using Jordan as an example of a player who OP wouldn’t take because he “can’t ahopt 
3s” is a new level of reaching. 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							Wade is easily disqualified then.
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							
	Not drafting Jordan? You'd be a bigger idiot than you already are
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by And1AllDay   more skilled era requires more skill 
back in the old days stars didnt even know how to dribble with both hands like drexler or shoot a 3 pointer like mike 
  
it was a limited time
 
modern era is different and we see it    you need to do a lot just to get a shot. no more grocery baggers round here   
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							
	I'm just trying to provide context. Far too often we see these plug and play attempts and it doesn't really work that way. You have to understand the context of where the 3 pointer came into existence and how it evolved.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by nizroc   Man tell me why Hoops keep sonning y’all dudes    
For real, using Jordan as an example of a player who OP wouldn’t take because he “can’t shoot 
3s” is a new level of reaching. 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							
	Again, context. Players evolved. With increased volume comes increased percentages. Go look at Jordan's first 5 seasons vs the rest of his career, minus the shortened years.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by And1AllDay   bruh someone did the numbers if you take out his 2 wnba 3 pt line years he shot like 28% on 1,000 attempts 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
				
					 Re: In today's nba I won't draft a shooting guard with a questionable 3 points shooti
					
						
							So basically, no Jordan, Wade, West, Drexler, Kobe? But you'd prefer Allen, Miller, Houston, Richmond, and Klay? Interesting.
						 
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
			
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