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Bran Fam Member
Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
Why?
And how would that work, considering the 2020 Lakers are clearly better than the 2000 Lakers, yet both finals went 6 games.
Injuries to Bam and Dragic & also no HCA.. 2000 Lakers went 6 because of Kobe's injury.
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The Special One
Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Originally Posted by PeroAntic
You cant possibly be serious. Half the players you listed are not nearly as good as Butler. Curry is also a 'system player' and hes an all time great because of that. As for scoring 12 in an elimination game, when youre doing such an insane carry job and when youre a completely team oriented player, that can always happen and it doesn't mean by any means it was a bad game anyway. its something only a boxscore watcher can say.
Jimmy Butler is not a TOP 10 player. What makes him a top 10 player again? The same type of player as Peak Iguodala.
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Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Serious question-
Does anyone know why they chose to pay Meyers Leonard instead of Crowder?
I just don't understand it.
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Youngest MVP
Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld
Jimmy Butler is not a TOP 10 player. What makes him a top 10 player again? The same type of player as Peak Iguodala.
The fact that he carried his team through a bunch of superstars and challenged a juggernaught in the finals? In terms of mentality hes the best player in the league. Stats isn't everything, intangibles are incredibly underrated when it comes to evaluating a player. And Butler is a much better scorer than Igoudala. If he played for stats he would have looked much better on the statsheet, but he plays the right way in order to win.
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... on a leash
Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Originally Posted by ImKobe
Injuries to Bam and Dragic & also no HCA.. 2000 Lakers went 6 because of Kobe's injury.
So?
Either way the 2020 Lakers were much better than the 2000 Lakers, yet both the Pacers and Heat took 2 games off of them, so clearly the Pacers couldnt have been better than the Heat.
Do you realize the Lakers would have had HCA and the Heat thrived in the no-HC environment? Lol
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Bran Fam Member
Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
So?
Either way the 2020 Lakers were much better than the 2000 Lakers, yet both the Pacers and Heat took 2 games off of them, so clearly the Pacers couldnt have been better than the Heat.
Do you realize the Lakers would have had HCA and the Heat thrived in the no-HC environment? Lol
The Lakers in 2000 were the ones dealing with an injury to one of their best players, who basically missed two games and played injured the rest of the way vs. the 2020 Lakers catching a break with injuries to the opponents' 2 best players..
Yes, the 2000 Pacers were better when you factor in the injuries, you had a rookie Herro playing 40+ mpg when those two went down... they were down their rim protector and their point guard. The Heat were a 5 seed while the Pacers were #1 in their Conference as well.
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NBA Legend
Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Its not fluke, you dont advance to the finals as underdogs in both conference semi-finals and conference finals if its fluke. Luck can get you by at most 1 round, not 2. They are struggling for some other reasons, some players are missing, and the trade rumors did have an impact on the players too.
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The Bearded Menace
Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Can't forget the 2020 heat also won against the bucks in the semifinals when giannis crumbled to injury.
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Bitch Hands
Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Imagine thinking Donovan Mitchell and Westbrook (not to mention Booker and Simmons) are better than Jimmy Butler.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
i am gonna be the judge here.
Embiid is better than Butler.
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Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Originally Posted by k0kakw0rld
So you are telling that you will take Jimmy Butler over Bradley Beal? Klay Thompson? Devin Booker? Russell Westbrook? Donovan Mitchell?
Is that right?
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Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Butler is probably not a top 10 player because you already have this 9 below lock as better than him
Lebron
Kawhi
Giannis
Durant
Doncic
A.Davis
Jokic
Curry
Lillard
Which one of these 9 are you kicking out to put butler into the top 10? Maybe at exactly 10th, he arrives.
Why is Klay Thompson in the discussion here? Klay right now is injured, no one knows how he will play after his injuries.
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Youngest MVP
Re: Miami Heat - What is happening? Were they a fluke?
Originally Posted by Nike D'Antoni
Butler is probably not a top 10 player because you already have this 9 below lock as better than him
Lebron
Kawhi
Giannis
Durant
Doncic
A.Davis
Jokic
Curry
Lillard
Which one of these 9 are you kicking out to put butler into the top 10? Maybe at exactly 10th, he arrives.
Why is Klay Thompson in the discussion here? Klay right now is injured, no one knows how he will play after his injuries.
Lillard definitely, and probably also Doncic who beyond being a stat stuffer by way of ball monopolization hasn't proven that he can lead a team deep in the playoffs, and also Giannis the perennial playoff ragdoll whose only great in transition. Lebron, KD, Kawhi, Davis are obv better, and hes on par with Curry who is a system player with no defense and Jokic who got manhandled by a washed up Dwight Howard.
Butler is underrated af.
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