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    Default Top 50 List Revisited

    We just wrapped up the top 50 list a few days ago. We have a pretty good list.

    #1 - Michael Jordan
    #2 - Lebron James
    #3 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    #4 - Bill Russell
    #5 - Wilt Chamberlain
    #6 - Magic Johnson
    #7 - Shaquille O'Neal
    #8 - Tim Duncan
    #9 - Larry Bird
    #10 - Hakeem Olajuwon
    #11 - Kobe Bryant
    #12 - Stephen Curry
    #13 - Oscar Robertson
    #14 - Jerry West
    #15 - Moses Malone
    #16 - Julius Erving
    #17 - Kevin Durant
    #18 - Kevin Garnett
    #19 - Karl Malone
    #20 - Dirk Nowitzki
    #21 - Charles Barkley
    #22 - David Robinson
    #23 - Dwyane Wade
    #24 - Elgin Baylor
    #25 - Scottie Pippen
    #26 - Giannis Antetokounmpo
    #27 - John Havlicek
    #28 - Isiah Thomas
    #29 - Bob Pettit
    #30 - Chris Paul
    #31 - Kawhi Leonard
    #32 - Rick Barry
    #33 - James Harden
    #34 - Patrick Ewing
    #35 - Bob Cousy
    #36 - John Stockton
    #37 - Jason Kidd
    #38 - Steve Nash
    #39 - Willis Reed
    #40 - Walt Frazier
    #41 - Allen Iverson
    #42 - Clyde Drexler
    #43 - Russell Westbrook
    #44 - Kevin McHale
    #45 - Elvin Hayes
    #46 - George Gervin
    #47 - Gary Payton
    #48 - Bill Walton
    #49 - Dominique Wilkins
    #50 - Dwight Howard

    All the positions are represented well:
    - 12 point guards
    - 8 shooting guards
    - 10 small forwards
    - 9 power forwards
    - 11 centers

    All the decades are represented well:
    - 7 players who peaked in the late 50's and 60's
    - 8 players who peaked in the 70's
    - 7 players who peaked in the 80's
    - 9 players who peaked in the 90's
    - 10 players who peaked in the 00's
    - 9 players who peaked in the 10's

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    Player with least All-NBA appearances: Kevin McHale with 1.
    Player with least All-Star game appearances: Bill Walton with 2.
    Player(s) with no NBA Finals appearances: Steve Nash, George Gervin, Dominique Wilkins.

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    Solid list!

    Players I'd move to later positions:
    McHale at 44
    Curry at 12
    Wade at 23
    Isiah Thomas at 28

    Players I'd move to earlier positions:
    Chris Paul at 30
    Jason Kidd at 37
    Last edited by ELITEpower23; 11-30-2021 at 02:59 PM.

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    That's actually not the worst list I've seen( considering this is ISH we're talking about ), at least relative to some of the lists from USA today, SLAM etc.

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    For as much of a shithole as this place is, this is actually a very respectable list. With the exception of Walton, the only truly bad pick of the list, all these guys would make my top 50 as well, or at least be in contention for it.

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    Only 31 players from the original top 50 made the list.

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    For as much of a shithole as this place is, this is actually a very respectable list. With the exception of Walton, the only truly bad pick of the list, all these guys would make my top 50 as well, or at least be in contention for it.
    Isiah at 28 sits right with you? To me that might be the worst misplacing by about 20 spots.

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    Just looking at the RealGM list made last year October 2020, some interesting disparities between our list and theirs

    Curry
    ISH: 12
    RGM: 24

    Nash
    ISH: 38
    RGM: 27

    Kawhi
    ISH: 31
    RGM: 42

    Isiah
    ISH: 28
    RGM: 43

    Hayes
    ISH: 45
    RGM: 59

    Cousy
    ISH: 35
    RGM: 63

    Iverson
    ISH: 41
    RGM: 66

    Wilkins
    ISH: 49
    RGM: 73

    Giannis
    ISH: 26
    RGM: 74

    Walton
    ISH: 48
    RGM: 100

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    Just looking at the RealGM list made last year October 2020, some interesting disparities between our list and theirs

    Curry
    ISH: 12
    RGM: 24

    Nash
    ISH: 38
    RGM: 27

    Kawhi
    ISH: 31
    RGM: 42

    Isiah
    ISH: 28
    RGM: 43

    Hayes
    ISH: 45
    RGM: 59

    Cousy
    ISH: 35
    RGM: 63

    Iverson
    ISH: 41
    RGM: 66

    Wilkins
    ISH: 49
    RGM: 73

    Giannis
    ISH: 26
    RGM: 74

    Walton
    ISH: 48
    RGM: 100
    Honestly of the ones posted here I like all of our rankings more than theirs.

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents View Post
    Just looking at the RealGM list made last year October 2020, some interesting disparities between our list and theirs

    Curry
    ISH: 12
    RGM: 24

    Nash
    ISH: 38
    RGM: 27

    Kawhi
    ISH: 31
    RGM: 42

    Isiah
    ISH: 28
    RGM: 43

    Hayes
    ISH: 45
    RGM: 59

    Cousy
    ISH: 35
    RGM: 63

    Iverson
    ISH: 41
    RGM: 66

    Wilkins
    ISH: 49
    RGM: 73

    Giannis
    ISH: 26
    RGM: 74

    Walton
    ISH: 48
    RGM: 100
    Nobody is taking a list with Horace Grant, Jeff Hornacek and Terry Porter in the top 100 serious.
    They have Rasheed Wallace over Giannis.

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    RealGM and overrating the ever-living crap out of Nash and Garnett - name a more iconic combo.

    I actually think the Insidehoops list is a lot better, you can certainly argue some of the particular placings but more often than not, a player belongs +- 5 spots around where they are ranked. The Bill Walton placement is wacky but at least the man had one of the 25 or so best peaks ever (albeit a very short one) so it doesn't bother me that much. Isaiah is a weird case - you could move him well below or even a little above depending on your perspective. I will say that he is better than Chris Paul, advanced statistics be damned. He played on teams that were for the most part comparable or even worse than Paul's, and achieve much more in a really strong era (when considering the top end of the league).

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    Going to 60 or 75 would've been interesting. Lot of interesting names left off

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    Quote Originally Posted by dankok8 View Post
    Honestly of the ones posted here I like all of our rankings more than theirs.
    No shit!

    I mean, I know I'm a Steph's homer, but 24!?!

    People with 2 MVPs and 3 chips are that common in NBA I guess.

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    The idiots have Giannis at 74! If he retired tomorrow, he would have accomplished more than Garnett, who half of them have in their top 10s, his rank on their list is 11.

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    Default Re: Top 50 List Revisited

    ISH surprisingly has a much better list than RGM. Having Giannis at 74 even before his championship is bizarre. That's an MVP and DPOTY....

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeppelin View Post
    The idiots have Giannis at 74! If he retired tomorrow, he would have accomplished more than Garnett, who half of them have in their top 10s, his rank on their list is 11.
    Garnett has to be the most overrated player in the league when it comes to people who watch ball and want to show clever they are. 11th!

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