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Greatest floor raise of all time?
2016 LeBron took 5ppg Dahntay Jones and more than doubled his output to 13ppg
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Playoffs: kawhi with role player Lowry and g league player siakam
Regular season: any rockets harden season before Chris Paul came
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Trumptard triggerer
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National High School Star
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Duncan maybe? I'd not say Hakeem since he wasnt as good at passing. MJ also can be a one man team in the offense but he is a guard so he can't be a defensive anchor. Lebron is a good choice tbh floor raising is his best quality. He is not the kind of player that makes good teams great but he can make any team good. Dirk was a great offensive engine that pulled bigs outside and cleared the path for others but defensively he wasn't great. Curry is more of a player that makes good teams great. So yeah either Duncan or Lebron. However if i was going to draft any player it is Duncan easily.
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Serious playground baller
Re: Greatest floor raise of all time?
 Originally Posted by GrayGoat
2016 LeBron took 5ppg Dahntay Jones and more than doubled his output to 13ppg 
I have to throw Bird into this discussion. As a rookie, with almost the same roster, Boston went from 29 wins to 61 wins = the biggest single season turnaround in NBA history and there were no new teams added to dilute the talent pool. Then the next year with Parrish and McHale, Boston won it all. When Boston got a "washed-up" and old first round pick in Walton, the 86 Celtic team became one of the best teams ever assembled. To review Bird's first 9 seasons ( before the heel surgery and back issues) in games he played in, Boston won 534 games and lost 177 of the 711 games played for a win % of 75.1%. That win % is higher than Magic's win % for the same 9 year period. And Boston was playing in the much stronger Eastern conference. It takes a great team to win games, but Bird was a multi-dimensional player who could fill gaps and did inspire his teammates. Anyone who needs further proof should look at what Bird did while at Indiana State.
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legoat and it isn't close.
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I am creator deity
Re: Greatest floor raise of all time?
 Originally Posted by Johnny32
legoat and it isn't close.
Got to go with iverson on this one
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College superstar
Re: Greatest floor raise of all time?
 Originally Posted by Johnny32
legoat and it isn't close.
Duncan who doesn't miss playoffs and made Popovich says hi.
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Re: Greatest floor raise of all time?
 Originally Posted by Akeem34TheDream
Lebron is a good choice tbh floor raising is his best quality. He is not the kind of player that makes good teams great but he can make any team good.
lol disagree. lebron on the 2017 gsw instead of kd would have been the biggest cheat code in the history of sports. they seriously might have gone 98-0.
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College superstar
Re: Greatest floor raise of all time?
 Originally Posted by Johnny32
lol disagree. lebron on the 2017 gsw instead of kd would have been the biggest cheat code in the history of sports. they seriously might have gone 98-0.
Eh no, hence 4/10
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Re: Greatest floor raise of all time?
 Originally Posted by mr4speed
I have to throw Bird into this discussion. As a rookie, with almost the same roster, Boston went from 29 wins to 61 wins = the biggest single season turnaround in NBA history and there were no new teams added to dilute the talent pool. Then the next year with Parrish and McHale, Boston won it all. When Boston got a "washed-up" and old first round pick in Walton, the 86 Celtic team became one of the best teams ever assembled. To review Bird's first 9 seasons ( before the heel surgery and back issues) in games he played in, Boston won 534 games and lost 177 of the 711 games played for a win % of 75.1%. That win % is higher than Magic's win % for the same 9 year period. And Boston was playing in the much stronger Eastern conference. It takes a great team to win games, but Bird was a multi-dimensional player who could fill gaps and did inspire his teammates. Anyone who needs further proof should look at what Bird did while at Indiana State.
There were a lot more nuance than that to that turnaround. Tiny Archibald returned to form after a devastating injury. Signing of a very good role player in ML Carr. Getting an actual coach in Bill Fitch.
Of course rookie Bird was the biggest factor to the turnaround but that team if fully healthy and had a real coach was more of a 49 win team, not 29.
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Serious playground baller
Re: Greatest floor raise of all time?
 Originally Posted by iamgine
There were a lot more nuance than that to that turnaround. Tiny Archibald returned to form after a devastating injury. Signing of a very good role player in ML Carr. Getting an actual coach in Bill Fitch.
Of course rookie Bird was the biggest factor to the turnaround but that team if fully healthy and had a real coach was more of a 49 win team, not 29.
I did not follow Boston the year before Bird played so I am curious how did Tiny play? Did it take him a whole season to come around? I know he missed the entire season the year before, but he played in 69 games the season Boston won only 29 games. Was Tiny a starter? I am having a hard time seeing that squad win 20 more games and winning 49 games.
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Good college starter
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After LeBron?
Probably Pippen for dragging a dead weight, 1-9 career loser to 6 Finals.
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MJ as he turned a role player in Scottie Pippen who came off the bench into a star. Name someone else who did that?
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Re: Greatest floor raise of all time?
 Originally Posted by mr4speed
I did not follow Boston the year before Bird played so I am curious how did Tiny play? Did it take him a whole season to come around? I know he missed the entire season the year before, but he played in 69 games the season Boston won only 29 games. Was Tiny a starter? I am having a hard time seeing that squad win 20 more games and winning 49 games.
Well his injury was brutal. He averaged only 24 minutes, was way overweight, and had feuds with the coach.
Basically turned from like bench player Cory Joseph level into all star Kyle Lowry level the next season.
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