Official Ja Morant for MVP thread

[1987_Lakers]

Serious question, should Morant start from the bench?

Obviously no. Now answer my question please.

[tontoz]

Serious question, should Morant start from the bench?

How exactly can a player start from the bench?

[PeroAntic]

How exactly can a player start from the bench?

Its ok buddy, we know youre the smartest person here at this point. youve proven yourself, you can relax now.

[Shogon]

Its ok buddy, we know youre the smartest person here at this point. youve proven yourself, you can relax now.

[tontoz]

Its ok buddy, we know youre the smartest person here at this point. youve proven yourself, you can relax now.

Not sure about that but i think we've established you definitely are NOT the smartest person here.

[PeroAntic]

Obviously no. Now answer my question please.

As I said for me the entertainment and innovation factors a great deal. Ja is by far the player with the biggest wow factor in the league. So just based on that and his numbers hes the MVP for me, considering his team has been successful. But I recognize he missed too many games to be voted and I'm fine with that. The whole 'team plays better without him' is bs. Their success is to a massive part due to chemistry and team spirit, and as the leader hes been crucial in installing confidence in them.

[1987_Lakers]

As I said for me the entertainment and innovation factors a great deal. Ja is by far the player with the biggest wow factor in the league. So just based on that and his numbers hes the MVP for me, considering his team has been successful. But I recognize he missed too many games to be voted and I'm fine with that. The whole 'team plays better without him' is bs. Their success is to a massive part due to chemistry and team spirit, and as the leader hes been crucial in installing confidence in them.

Not surprising coming from a D-Rose stan.

[PeroAntic]

Not surprising coming from a D-Rose stan.

Very insightful conclusion, providing strong competition to the wizards fan for smartest guy in the room award.

Of course if I start rambling about analytics, VORPs and RAPTORs I would sound more sophisticated or objective or whatever. But virtue signaling is not my goal here. I don't care what people think of me. AFAIK there are fixed criteria about MVP so Im free to choose mine, and youre free to **** off ;)

[1987_Lakers]

Very insightful conclusion, providing strong competition to the wizards fan for smartest guy in the room award.

Of course if I start rambling about analytics, VORPs and RAPTORs I would sound more sophisticated or objective or whatever. But virtue signaling is not my goal here. I don't care what people think of me. AFAIK there are fixed criteria about MVP so Im free to choose mine, and youre free to **** off ;)

Your conclusion to why he is MVP is retarded. "Wow factor and numbers". When in reality there are a handful of guys with better numbers.

[PeroAntic]

Your conclusion to why he is MVP is retarded. "Wow factor and numbers". When in reality there are a handful of guys with better numbers.

Thats why I said wow factor AND numbers, not just numbers. Duh.

[1987_Lakers]

Thats why I said wow factor AND numbers, not just numbers. Duh.

You sound like Skip Bayless.

"He has the wow factor, easily my MVP". Seriously, what you just said sounds like something Kendrick Perkins would say on ESPN.

[PeroAntic]

You sound like Skip Bayless.

"He has the wow factor, easily my MVP". Seriously, what you just said sounds like something Kendrick Perkins would say on ESPN.

I have no idea what Skip Bayless or Kendrick Perkins say and I don't care. But lets say youre right. So? Should we just hear about BPM and VORP bullshit over and over again? Are you watching sports or scrolling Excel sheets? You think you figured out some deeper truth?

All these clowns desperate to be seen as 'original' and 'independent' thinkers, going against the 'mainstream narrative'. Newsflash, the mainstream narrative isn't that Ja should be MVP. I have my own philosophy when it comes to evaluating players and i dont give a shit what you think about it

[tontoz]

I have no idea what Skip Bayless or Kendrick Perkins say and I don't care. But lets say youre right. So? Should we just hear about BPM and VORP bullshit over and over again? Are you watching sports or scrolling Excel sheets? You think you figured out some deeper truth?

All these clowns desperate to be seen as 'original' and 'independent' thinkers, going against the 'mainstream narrative'. Newsflash, the mainstream narrative isn't that Ja should be MVP. I have my own philosophy when it comes to evaluating players and i dont give a shit what you think about it

Earlier in the thread you said that advanced stats were part of the case for Morant being the MVP. Are you now saying advanced stats don't matter?

Based on all the other components of what makes an MVP (raw stats, advanced stats, star teammates and of course the X factor - excitement).

[Full Court]

I have no idea what Skip Bayless or Kendrick Perkins say and I don't care. But lets say youre right. So? Should we just hear about BPM and VORP bullshit over and over again? Are you watching sports or scrolling Excel sheets? You think you figured out some deeper truth?

All these clowns desperate to be seen as 'original' and 'independent' thinkers, going against the 'mainstream narrative'. Newsflash, the mainstream narrative isn't that Ja should be MVP. I have my own philosophy when it comes to evaluating players and i dont give a shit what you think about it

I agree with you. The "data driven" obsession that has bled over into basketball takes away the soul of the sport. There are too many intangibles that can be quantified. That's why to me the eye test trumps advanced stats.

[PeroAntic]

Earlier in the thread you said that advanced stats were part of the case for Morant being the MVP. Are you now saying advanced stats don't matter?

No, you and the rest of the sophisticated brigade are saying the eye test doesn't matter, only advanced stats matter. And Morants advanced stats are excellent, having other players with better advanced stats doesnt change that.

Try again.