3ball, why can LeBron win with Irving, but KD can't?

[1987_Lakers]

You can also make the Ben Simmons excuse this year as he is one of the 3 best players on the Nets and hasn't been able to play a single minute.

The same Ben Simmons that was too scared to shoot last playoffs?

[ArbitraryWater]

Maybe, maybe not. The Warriors had a great team in 2015. Even with Kyrie, it's a tough sell once the Warriors went away from Bogut in that series.

Irving & Harden both got injured last year, so that's a ring that KD probably would have won otherwise.

You can also make the Ben Simmons excuse this year as he is one of the 3 best players on the Nets and hasn't been able to play a single minute.

The fact that KD probably would have won a ring with Kyrie AND Harden isn't saying anything.


Yeah, he better have.


Congrats?


What does Ben Simmons have to do with this? Why are you relying on additional stars being pushed into this for KD to win with Irving?


Legit KD's team right now is better than LeBron's Cavs support so don't even try it.

[Johnny32]

he's actually right that kd never fully recovered. he definitely lost a step getting to the rim. but that isn't coming back and he scored efficiently all season so no excuse.

[post]

i have a hard time seing how KD with Irving getting swept in the 1st round by Tatum/Brown is a circumstance so unlucky it could negate winning championships with an early prime Irving.

whatever there will be like 100 threads about this so people can pontificate about nothing

[ArbitraryWater]

whatever there will be like 100 threads about this so people can pontificate about nothing

im assuming you have no rationalization for your claim?

[red1]

another L for 3ball. kyrie was the real supposed GOAT, remember?


lebron only finals MVP over a 70-win team.

[ImKobe]

The fact that KD probably would have won a ring with Kyrie AND Harden isn't saying anything.


Yeah, he better have.


Congrats?


What does Ben Simmons have to do with this? Why are you relying on additional stars being pushed into this for KD to win with Irving?


Legit KD's team right now is better than LeBron's Cavs support so don't even try it.

The Nets were beating the Bucks even without Harden, he needed just one of those guys healthy.

Ben Simmons is a star player. As flawed as he might be, the Nets could have really used his defense/rebounding/playmaking & transition offense in this series.

KD's team right now (minus Simmons) is not better than the 2016 Cavs. He has a bunch of guards and the corpses of Drummond/Griffin/LMA. Bran had much better defensive players around him and a better coach.

[FireDavidKahn]

Kevin Durant’s career in the playoffs:

With Golden State: 38-10 (.792)
With OKC & BK: 57-49 (.538)

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[ImKobe]

The same Ben Simmons that was too scared to shoot last playoffs?

Who cares about the scoring. The Nets could have really used his playmaking/defense/rebounding transition offense. You don't need to put the ball in Simmons' hands in the 4th, even 20 minutes of Ben Simmons playing great defense would have been a massive upgrade over Drummond/Claxton, enough to at least swing one of the 3 games in the series.

[red1]

3ball loses again.

[8Ball]

another L for 3ball. kyrie was the real supposed GOAT, remember?


lebron only finals MVP over a 70-win team.

Huge L.

Durant and Kyrie play Jordan Ball in 3ball's mind. Elite iso scoring supposedly puts enormous pressure on the defense and having more is better.

Sounds good on paper.

But this is disastrous for the 3ball narrative.

[1987_Lakers]

[8Ball]

3ball loses again.

The 4 greatest moments of my life.

[kawhileonard2]

Any other LeBron hater might as well feel adressed also.

Because Covid didn't happen in 2015. Had Covid happened in 2015 what would have happened to Cavs?

[Johnny32]

The 4 greatest moments of my life.

lol