Is Wilt is the only superstar who's team didn't regress much when they traded him?

[Axe]

Wilt somewhat recognized that his own scoring wasn't necessarily the best result for the team later on, acknowledging Russell as the best center ever because Russell did not take anything away from his own team's offense, whereas Wilt himself likely would have taken away from those Celtics' offense because of his own personal scoring dominance. While it certainly can be the best result, the best result does not necessarily come with a player prioritizing their own scoring, even if they are by far and away the best scorer. In Wilt's very own words, "sometimes less is more."

Well, he should have improved his playmaking skills if he wanted to elevate his teammates that in turn would make his team more successful in winning. But then again, he seemed to be more hellbent on breaking individual records bt. As a player, he's really more dominant and flashy than bill russell ever was. But once people start ranking these hof players using all-time criteria, that's where the chips come in and we all know he only has a few of them.

[ImKobe]

Well, he should have improved his playmaking skills if he wanted to elevate his teammates that in turn would make his team more successful in winning. But then again, he seemed to be more hellbent on breaking individual records bt. As a player, he's really more dominant and flashy than bill russell ever was. But once people start ranking these hof players using all-time criteria, that's where the chips come in and we all know he only has a few of them.

That's what he did when he won his 2 rings. He averaged 22/29/9 in that '67 title run when he was still in his prime and capable of averaging 35+ ppg. It's not like he had teammates that could shoulder that scoring load prior to him joining those great teams. He played the Warriors in the Finals in that '67 run and averaged 18/29/7. He was still close to his prime but took a step back on offense and was 5th in points on his team in that series. He more or less did the same in LA when they were healthy and he used that energy which he saved on the offensive end to shut down prime Kareem in that '72 title run.

Wilt learned from his mistakes and evolved as a player. IDK why OP would try to trash Wilt when he was arguably the best player on that historic '72 team. Jerry West shot 37.6% in that title run. Wilt in his mid-30s played all 82 in B2B years and they had B2B 60+ win seasons and he was a monster on defense.

[Full Court]

That's what he did when he won his 2 rings. He averaged 22/29/9 in that '67 title run when he was still in his prime and capable of averaging 35+ ppg. It's not like he had teammates that could shoulder that scoring load prior to him joining those great teams. He played the Warriors in the Finals in that '67 run and averaged 18/29/7. He was still close to his prime but took a step back on offense and was 5th in points on his team in that series. He more or less did the same in LA when they were healthy and he used that energy which he saved on the offensive end to shut down prime Kareem in that '72 title run.

Wilt learned from his mistakes and evolved as a player. IDK why OP would try to trash Wilt when he was arguably the best player on that historic '72 team. Jerry West shot 37.6% in that title run. Wilt in his mid-30s played all 82 in B2B years and they had B2B 60+ win seasons and he was a monster on defense.

People like OP and Axe the dingus love to trash Wilt because he's ahead of Bronie on every reasonable person's all time list. That makes him a threat that has to be disparaged.

What else would the point of this thread be?

[Axe]

That's what he did when he won his 2 rings. He averaged 22/29/9 in that '67 title run when he was still in his prime and capable of averaging 35+ ppg. It's not like he had teammates that could shoulder that scoring load prior to him joining those great teams. He played the Warriors in the Finals in that '67 run and averaged 18/29/7. He was still close to his prime but took a step back on offense and was 5th in points on his team in that series. He more or less did the same in LA when they were healthy and he used that energy which he saved on the offensive end to shut down prime Kareem in that '72 title run.

Wilt learned from his mistakes and evolved as a player. IDK why OP would try to trash Wilt when he was arguably the best player on that historic '72 team. Jerry West shot 37.6% in that title run. Wilt in his mid-30s played all 82 in B2B years and they had B2B 60+ win seasons and he was a monster on defense.

Yes. But he only did so late in his career. He should have realized it earlier but even then, russell was already a perennial finals competitor. He would have ended with at least four rings tho that way and no one would think he underachieved in the finals had that been the case decades ago.

[coastalmarker99]

That's what he did when he won his 2 rings. He averaged 22/29/9 in that '67 title run when he was still in his prime and capable of averaging 35+ ppg. It's not like he had teammates that could shoulder that scoring load prior to him joining those great teams. He played the Warriors in the Finals in that '67 run and averaged 18/29/7. He was still close to his prime but took a step back on offense and was 5th in points on his team in that series. He more or less did the same in LA when they were healthy and he used that energy which he saved on the offensive end to shut down prime Kareem in that '72 title run.

Wilt learned from his mistakes and evolved as a player. IDK why OP would try to trash Wilt when he was arguably the best player on that historic '72 team. Jerry West shot 37.6% in that title run. Wilt in his mid-30s played all 82 in B2B years and they had B2B 60+ win seasons and he was a monster on defense.

Wilt should have actually just remained a scorer for his entire career as Jordan did.

the 1970 Lakers made Chamberlain the number 1 option until he tore his patella.


In those 9 Games,

Wilt went back to his Scoring days instead of the 1966-1968 play-style.

Wilt
32 PPG 21 RPG 3 APG
56.5 TS (+5.4 rTS)

Jerry West:
31 PPG 7 APG 3 RPG
64.3 TS (+13.2 rTS)


He was drawing double teams continuously when aggressive while playing with Jerry West in 1970.

As a result, he made Jerry’s efficiency skyrocket as he likely got the easiest baskets of his life off the attention that Wilt was getting.






Here is a fun fact about Wilt.


He has a higher winning percentage against Boston in the playoffs than he does in the regular season.


Plus his average field goal percentage, rebounding, assists, defense all went up in the playoffs in games against Russell.

[Full Court]

Wilt should have actually just remained a scorer for his entire career as Jordan did.

the 1970 Lakers made Chamberlain the number 1 option until he tore his patella.


In those 9 Games,

Wilt went back to his Scoring days instead of the 1966-1968 play-style.

Wilt
32 PPG 21 RPG 3 APG
56.5 TS (+5.4 rTS)

Jerry West:
31 PPG 7 APG 3 RPG
64.3 TS (+13.2 rTS)


He was drawing double teams continuously when aggressive while playing with Jerry West in 1970.

As a result, he made Jerry’s efficiency skyrocket as he likely got the easiest baskets of his life off the attention that Wilt was getting.






Here is a fun fact about Wilt.


He has a higher winning percentage against Boston in the playoffs than he does in the regular season.


Plus his average field goal percentage, rebounding, assists, defense all went up in the playoffs in games against Russell.

Great historical context about Wilt.

You'd have to be a merman role player to not understand how great of a player he was.

[Axe]

Wilt should have actually just remained a scorer for his entire career as Jordan did.

the 1970 Lakers made Chamberlain the number 1 option until he tore his patella.


In those 9 Games,

Wilt went back to his Scoring days instead of the 1966-1968 play-style.

Wilt
32 PPG 21 RPG 3 APG
56.5 TS (+5.4 rTS)

Jerry West:
31 PPG 7 APG 3 RPG
64.3 TS (+13.2 rTS)


He was drawing double teams continuously when aggressive while playing with Jerry West in 1970.

As a result, he made Jerry’s efficiency skyrocket as he likely got the easiest baskets of his life off the attention that Wilt was getting.






Here is a fun fact about Wilt.


He has a higher winning percentage against Boston in the playoffs than he does in the regular season.


Plus his average field goal percentage, rebounding, assists, defense all went up in the playoffs in games against Russell.

If only he was in the position of russell in boston instead (with that role exactly in your post), who knows. Maybe he would have five rings in minimum.