2023 NBA MVP Straw Poll 3.0 Results

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ome-razor-thin

My goodness, it's literally a tie between Jokic & Embiid.

[Chuckbe]

Embiid better thank BLM in his speech

[1987_Lakers]

I don't get it. Jokic had a comfortable lead up until he lost 4 straight.

After that, Sixers then lost 4 of 5 games with Embiid missing the Nuggets matchup, and the Nuggets have won 4 straight while beating Giannis & the Bucks, but Embiid is still ahead?

[BigShotBob]

I don't get it. Jokic had a comfortable lead up until he lost 4 straight.

After that, Sixers then lost 4 of 5 games with Embiid missing the Nuggets matchup, and the Nuggets have won 4 straight while beating Giannis & the Bucks, but Embiid is still ahead?

Embiid's dominant 30 point stretch where he played simaltaneously as the best scorer and defender in the league was a level of dominance that Jokic hasn't displayed all year. Thankfully we're becoming numb to gaudy triple-double stats and advanced metrics

[AlternativeAcc.]

Embiid's dominant 30 point stretch where he played simaltaneously as the best scorer and defender in the league was a level of dominance that Jokic hasn't displayed all year. Thankfully we're becoming numb to gaudy triple-double stats and advanced metrics

Played more, won more, lesser cast. Better stats.

Everything is in Jokics favor.

[Wardell Curry]

I don't get it. Jokic had a comfortable lead up until he lost 4 straight.

After that, Sixers then lost 4 of 5 games with Embiid missing the Nuggets matchup, and the Nuggets have won 4 straight while beating Giannis & the Bucks, but Embiid is still ahead?

Kendrick Perkins screamed at the top of his lungs about racism during this time frame and narratives that lead people's minds arise from thin air just like that all the time.

[BigShotBob]

Played more, won more, lesser cast. Better stats.

Everything is in Jokics favor.

won one more game. Embiid is a far more dominant scorer and defender

I think it's going to be Embiid's time

[Wardell Curry]

won one more game. Embiid is a far more dominant scorer and defender

I think it's going to be Embiid's time

Who really cares though? The Sixers and the Nuggets are both getting bounced before the Finals.

[BigShotBob]

Who really cares though? The Sixers and the Nuggets are both getting bounced before the Finals.

I agree with this. It's distracting from the teams and players that actually matters because neither of them have any real expectations, weight, or burdens placed upon them. If they don't make it to the Finals it's because their teams weren't good enough (again) and next year we're starting all over again.

[AlternativeAcc.]

won one more game. Embiid is a far more dominant scorer and defender

I think it's going to be Embiid's time

Is Tatum better than Magic Johnson?

[BigShotBob]

Is Tatum better than Magic Johnson?

Not remotely comparable since a big that is a subpar/serviceable defender hurts his team far more than Magic being a subpar/serviceable defender ever has

But the answer is no Magic is a far superior player than Tatum

[tontoz]

won one more game. Embiid is a far more dominant scorer and defender

I think it's going to be Embiid's time

Philly won 9 games when Embiid didn't play. Do those wins help his case for MVP?

[AlternativeAcc.]

Not remotely comparable since a big that is a subpar/serviceable defender hurts his team far more than Magic being a subpar/serviceable defender ever has

But the answer is no Magic is a far superior player than Tatum

Jokics team has won more with a lesser cast. Doesn't seem to be hurting much.

You mentioned scoring and defense while ignoring that Jokic is one of the best passers ever and absurdly efficient as a scorer.

He's made it further than Embiid in the playoffs too while carrying worse teams in the regular season.

[BigShotBob]

Philly won 9 games when Embiid didn't play. Do those wins help his case for MVP?

Name the teams they beat without him and try again

Jokics team has won more with a lesser cast. Doesn't seem to be hurting much.

You mentioned scoring and defense while ignoring that Jokic is one of the best passers ever and absurdly efficient as a scorer.

He's made it further than Embiid in the playoffs too while carrying worse teams in the regular season.

Cast isn't much lesser when he has more double digit scorers on his team than Embiid does.

It's better to have an Embiid level big man defender than a Jokic level big man passer. Jokic is efficient as a scorer but he's not dominant. Which you will see again in the playoffs this year.

We're counting the bubble now?

[tontoz]

Name the teams they beat without him and try again

Sacramento, Miami, Brooklyn (with KD and Kyrie playing), Toronto.... so that's 4 playoff teams

Wiz, Orlando twice, Indy and Detroit...

So does beating those teams without him help Embiid's case for MVP?

9-5 record without him.