When's the last time a DPOY is destroyed this bad?

[elementally morale]

Jokic's stats vs Rudy in the first 4 games were not good though, he just destroyed him in the last game. Which can happen to anyone.

Gobert defended Jokic very well. The Gobert-KAT tandem is tough to go through and Minnesota played very good defense, especially on Jokic. As did the Lakers. They DID slow him down. This is what it looks like. When some people played great defense on Shaq (Hakeem for example) it still meant Shaq getting his.

[sdot_thadon]

MJ neither “destroyed” Payton nor did Payton “lock up” MJ which is the debate I was having lol

You really crashing out this hard over Mj being defended well by the dpoy? He shot worse with GP as his primary defender. The end.

[Reggie43]

Shaq has a lot of such stats.

Ostertag also held Shaq to quite decent numbers, around 25ppg, while being the one who swatted him the most. I believe Shaq has even said that Ostertag was his most difficult cover.

https://saltcityhoops.com/clash-of-t...greg-ostertag/

Ostertag had one good series defensively against Shaq but outside of that Shaq has had huge games against him including the playoffs. He has had 39, 39, 39, 38, 37 point games against him throughout their careers averaging 26ppg in their matchups.

[SATAN]

You still haven't explained Jordan shooting 50% in game 5 with Payton guarding him. Go.

I'm not even arguing about any of this. Wtf?

[theman93]

You really crashing out this hard over Mj being defended well by the dpoy? He shot worse with GP as his primary defender. The end.

Yeah because his shot was off not because GP was clamping him, as evidenced by game 5. The end.

[FireDavidKahn]

What's funny is that Jokic abused AD even worse and everyone already forgot

[sdot_thadon]

Yeah because his shot was off not because GP was clamping him, as evidenced by game 5. The end.

Yeah because his shot was off, right? that's weak af even for an Mj stan. So then I guess all the times he had big games he was just lucky right? Nonsense. His shot was "off" because he had the dpoy on him, this is one of the stupidest excuses I've seen made for him. Right up there with he could shoot 3s he just didn't want to.....

[fsvr54]

was*

[theman93]

Yeah because his shot was off, right? that's weak af even for an Mj stan. So then I guess all the times he had big games he was just lucky right? Nonsense. His shot was "off" because he had the dpoy on him, this is one of the stupidest excuses I've seen made for him. Right up there with he could shoot 3s he just didn't want to.....

If what you were saying was true, he wouldn’t have shot so efficiently in game 5. Period the end.

[SATAN]

Spot the guy that's never played a serious game of basketball in his life...

[SATAN]

Actually, I will reword that since some people study the game beyond surface level despite not playing...Spot the absolute casual...

[sdot_thadon]

If what you were saying was true, he wouldn’t have shot so efficiently in game 5. Period the end.

So no one's ever had a good game vs elite defense? I mean having one good game sandwiched between. 2 bad ones totally erases the bad ones right? If he only had a single bad game, you could write it off as that and not one would raise an eyebrow. He had 2 out of 3 with a world title on the line after doing significantly better before GP was guarding him. Fairy tales win the day though. Only Mj stans.....

[ImKobe]

What's funny is that Jokic abused AD even worse and everyone already forgot

AD did well against Jokic tf u smoking on. He had no help on D compared to what the Wolves got at all positions. They had to take AD off Jokic because of it.

[FireDavidKahn]

AD did well against Jokic tf u smoking on. He had no help on D compared to what the Wolves got at all positions. They had to take AD off Jokic because of it.

Jokic vs. the Lakers: 28.2 ppg on 59.1%/33.3%/92.6%, 16.2 rpg, 9.8 apg

"AD did great"

Jokic vs. Gobert/KAT: 28.2 ppg on 52.8%/24%/89.2%, 10.2rpg, 8 apg

"DPOY getting torched."

The narrative is hilarious

[theman93]

So no one's ever had a good game vs elite defense? I mean having one good game sandwiched between. 2 bad ones totally erases the bad ones right? If he only had a single bad game, you could write it off as that and not one would raise an eyebrow. He had 2 out of 3 with a world title on the line after doing significantly better before GP was guarding him. Fairy tales win the day though. Only Mj stans.....

Lol go rewatch the games bud they are free. Many of the shots he missed weren’t even with GP defending him and even the ones he did miss with GP on him were routine shots he creates enough space to not be bothered and he just misses. If there’s anything GP should be commended for those games it was his ball denial.