If Kyrie makes the Finals without Lebron, it ruins Lebron's career and goat case

[3ba11]

Career Finals

Lebron.......... 28 ppg
Kyrie............. 28 ppg


And Lebron always needed 2 star teammates to win as 1st option

[ImKobe]

Does it? I feel like it just validates Kyrie more than anything. Lebron won with 3 different types of co-stars in Wade, Kyrie & AD.

[1987_Lakers]

It proves LeBron-Luka ball is the way to go.

[3ba11]

Does it? I feel like it just validates Kyrie more than anything. Lebron won with 3 different types of co-stars in Wade, Kyrie & AD.

Curry won 3 chips in 4 years, or Duncan won 3 in 5, or Kobe and MJ 3-peated, while Lebron never had a stretch where he mostly won with a cast and mostly lost with every cast.. He's only proven that he mostly loses, regardless of cast.

So when you brag that Lebron won with 3 different types of co-stars, you're misguided because Lebron underachieved with 3 different types of co-stars by never having a stretch of mostly winning with any cast, while also losing with favored talent such as preseason favorites, homecourt advantage or 2 all-star teammates... Lebron was literally destroyed with each co-star, such as record loss or sweep loss.

So when did winning once and then getting demolished every other year become a goat-caliber and something to brag about/.. I's amazing

[3ba11]

It proves LeBron-Luka ball is the way to go.

No that brand mostly loses on the championship level because Magic/Lebron are 9-10 in the Finals - if those guys can't make the brand a winner, than no one can.. sorry Luka... Luka will get taught the same brand of ball lesson by an expert jumpshooter 9tatum0 that Magic and Lebron were taught by Bird and Curry.

[ShawkFactory]

Yea we’ve all been waiting for this pivot. Shit on Luka for years and when it looks like he has a real shot we’ll go the other direction.

At least you got expert jump shooter Tatum still alive.

[RRR3]

No that brand mostly loses on the championship level because Magic/Lebron are 9-10 in the Finals - if those guys can't make the brand a winner, than no one can.. sorry Luka... Luka will get taught the same brand of ball lesson by an expert jumpshooter 9tatum0 that Magic and Lebron were taught by Bird and Curry.

Magic beat Bird head to head. You don’t even know NBA history.

[NBAGOAT]

Curry won 3 chips in 4 years, or Duncan won 3 in 5, or Kobe and MJ 3-peated, while Lebron never had a stretch where he mostly won with a cast and mostly lost with every cast.. He's only proven that he mostly loses, regardless of cast.

So when you brag that Lebron won with 3 different types of co-stars, you're misguided because Lebron underachieved with 3 different types of co-stars by never having a stretch of mostly winning with any cast, while also losing with favored talent such as preseason favorites, homecourt advantage or 2 all-star teammates... Lebron was literally destroyed with each co-star, such as record loss or sweep loss.

So when did winning once and then getting demolished every other year become a goat-caliber and something to brag about/.. I's amazing

Curry’s core changed. He got kd the last 2 years. Better than lebrons co stars true also for Kobe. Duncan played in a big 3 for 2/3 rings

[3ba11]

Yea we’ve all been waiting for this pivot. Shit on Luka for years and when it looks like he has a real shot we’ll go the other direction.

At least you got expert jump shooter Tatum still alive.

Luka made it because he was facing ball-dominators like himself such as SGA or Ant... But now he'll face an expert jumpshooter (tatum) and lose, just like I say... How can you not see that this all works out to back up my theories?.. I made a thread earlier about how expert jumpshooters or fundamental bigs win most of the chips, and I included Tatum in there as the 2024 champ

[3ba11]

Curry’s core changed. He got kd the last 2 years. Better than lebrons co stars true also for Kobe. Duncan played in a big 3 for 2/3 rings

21 years confirms that Lebron mostly loses, regardless of cast, and he mostly loses via record loss, sweep loss or upset loss.. he's actually the biggest loser in NBA history when we consider that he has worst championship record ever and also he has the most bad losses of anyone ever (sweep loss, record loss, upset loss, loss with 2 all-star teammates, losses with preseason favorites, losses with 1 or 2 seed, etc, etc, etc.. chokes like 2011 or meltdown like 2010)

[3ba11]

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1) Lebron needed teammates that made the Finals without him (Wade, Kyrie), or he needed to be 2nd option to AD (AD led Lakers in scoring for 2020 RS & PO)

2) Lebron never won a title as 1st option without 2 perennial all-stars as teammates and sidekicks that made the Finals without him.,

[plowking]

Imagine thinking about LeBron this much.

Jesus. Dude is like 40 and done. Find other shit to do.

[John8204]

Rodman - won two chips without Jordan
Harper - won a ring without Jordan
Horace - won a ring without Jordan
Kerr - won two chips without Jordan
Pippen - would have won a ring if the Refs weren't on the take

[Overdrive]

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2) Lebron never won a title as 1st option without 2 perennial all-stars as teammates and sidekicks that made the Finals without him.,

When did Chris Bosh make the finals without Lebron?

[Axe]

Rodman - won two chips without Jordan
Harper - won a ring without Jordan
Horace - won a ring without Jordan
Kerr - won two chips without Jordan
Pippen - would have won a ring if the Refs weren't on the take

Kobe - never won the nba finals without derek fisher while having lesser trips there than him