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    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98 View Post
    I have enough spacing on my team and I'm aware my interior defense is lacking but I still have 3 picks remaining to solve that

    Out of all the guys that have won DPOY and / or been great defenders like 95% of them are still available ~ Dwight, Rodman, Kidd, Mutumbo, Zo, Bogut, Gary Payton, Noah, Dray, Wallace bros, AK47, Matrix, Tyson Chandler, Ron Artest, Bill Lambier, Karl Malone, Sidney Moncrief, etc.

    So I think you'll be straight if you just grab some combination of those guys. You already have Pippen too whose one of the best defenders ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    Out of all the guys that have won DPOY and / or been great defenders like 95% of them are still available ~ Dwight, Rodman, Kidd, Mutumbo, Gary Payton, Noah, Dray, Wallace bros, AK47, Matrix, Tyson Chandler, Ron Artest, Bill Lambier, Karl Malone, Sidney Moncrief, etc.

    So I think you'll be straight if you just grab some combination of those guys. You already have Pippen too whose one of the best defenders ever.
    Yep not giving anything away but the players I want will round out my team so well I'm well aware of my lack of rim protection which will be addressed as long as somebody doesn't pick the guys I want

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    Pierce

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    Jason Kidd

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    Draymond and Booker

    Draymond adds all-time defense, could guard multiple positions, brings playmaking & leadership. Could start Draymond and bring KD off the bench depending on the match-up, similar to what Team USA did to Durant in the Olympics.

    What Booker did in the Olympics got me sold on how he would fit with other stars. He took a lesser role and excelled at it. Played great defense & excelled as a catch and shoot guy at times and was able to contribute in other areas. I really thought he was the most consistent player along with LeBron throughout the Olympics. Kerr fell in love with the guy.



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    I’m taking Sheed

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    Booker is not a good defender but that's the thing. It's good to pick superstars on your team rather than role players because more talented guys can and almost always improve on defense when they are given a lesser offensive load.

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    Zo Mourning

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    Quote Originally Posted by j3lademaster View Post
    I’m taking Sheed
    He was my back up plan if someone took Draymond.

    Quote Originally Posted by dankok8 View Post
    Booker is not a good defender but that's the thing. It's good to pick superstars on your team rather than role players because more talented guys can and almost always improve on defense when they are given a lesser offensive load.
    Booker played great defense at the Olympics. Without having a big role on offense he was able to focus more on the things that role players usually do. Not all stars can make that transition though, Edwards at the Olympics although solid, was kinda of a ball stopper at times and killed the offensive flow. But some stars can indeed make that transition. I know T-Mac was a really good defender before he got a greater role on offense. It's very taxing for a star (especially a wing) to go 100% on offense & defense all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    He was my back up plan if someone took Draymond.

    Booker played great defense at the Olympics. Without having a big role on offense he was able to focus more on the things that role players usually do. Not all stars can make that transition though, Edwards at the Olympics although solid, was kinda of a ball stopper at times and killed the flow. But some stars can indeed make that transition. I know T-Mac was a really good defender before he got a greater role on offense. It's very taxing for a star (especially a wing) to go 100% on offense & defense all the time.
    Yea same with Kawhi. He peaked on D before his offensive load went up. From 2017 onwards, his D is very overrated. But the luxury is that most of our teams have plenty of scoring so you can pick the most complementary versions of these players. For instance I'll take 2008 Paul Pierce over his peak version. Takes a few less shots but more efficient, great from 3pt land and played good D.

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    Booker’s defense is average, not terrible, but if you have to have a defensive liability it might as well be from your guard rather than big. I’d probably bring him off the bench as instant offense, he’s a combo guard who can play the 1 and 2; start Draymond and dare the other team to try to cover KD with whatever 6’4 midget they have at the 2.

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    Pretty ****ing crazy that in an all time draft you can’t put together a curry, KD, Klay and Draymond core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j3lademaster View Post
    Pretty ****ing crazy that in an all time draft you can’t put together a curry, KD, Klay and Draymond core.
    After I drafted Kawhi & KD as my first picks I was hoping I would get a PF like Draymond or Sheed (because I knew I would need a PF who could defend the post) and both were somehow available in these rounds. It's very hard to find your modern day power forward in these drafts because the position is rather new.

    I feel like those type of PFs in these drafts can be more valuable than your traditional PF like McHale, Barkley, & Malone because the league has changed so much in terms of spacing. On another note I feel like Bird would be the perfect PF in today's league.
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    I was gonna draft Sheed but he's actually not that great of a 3pt shooter. 35-36% from 3pt range on what were mostly open threes for him doesn't really move the needle for a great offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankok8 View Post
    I was gonna draft Sheed but he's actually not that great of a 3pt shooter. 35-36% from 3pt range on what were mostly open threes for him doesn't really move the needle for a great offense.
    36% is pretty respectable, it's about league average. It's more about opening up the offense and keeping defenders honest. Having multiple shooters makes life so much easier for your bigs and wings who like to attack. Sheed is great post defender as well, he's a guy who would fit on any team on these drafts because he doesn't need a big role on offense to excel.

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