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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Sheen View Post
    One of the biggest strengths KAJ, McHale and CP3 bring to the table is consistency. If the strategy is to avoid those wild swings in variance and put pressure on the other team by converting at a higher rate night after night. Wade fits that profile better than Bean. This is the issue more than lack of shooters.
    Wade makes the shooting even worse, as much as I love him. Kareem is getting swarmed in the post on that team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    Seriously.

    When it comes to these superstar teams so many people are overrating the spacing thing like you can't put up huge point totals with guys who are masters at 2pt scoring like the 80s didn't exist where teams averaged record amounts of points.

    James Worthy, Chris Webber, Clyde Drexler etc. I believe all didn't get drafted. Some of these guys produced on waaaay higher efficiency than the 3pt spacer types taken.

    Moses Malone is a top 15-20 GOAT and didn't even get drafted? Dr. J almost didn't either. The 1983 sixers are in contention for best team ever and those were their top guns. Sidney Moncrief didn't either. These were well rounded superstars.

    It's crazy.
    I did not hate the Middleton pick. He is a great complementary player. Definitely liked it more than Moncrief. No disrepect to Sid but these exercises invite a lot more participation when it is not bogged down by picking players most here never saw play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    Wade makes the shooting even worse, as much as I love him. Kareem is getting swarmed in the post on that team.
    Forget spacing and 3pt shooting. What does it matter for this team? Their strength on offense is they will have lesser swings of variance in fg% from game to game. Would this team make it through 3 rounds of a playoff format against teams filled out with shooters taking a higher 3pa%? Very unlikely. But playing to their strength gives them a much better shot at winning 1 or even 2 rounds.

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    Eddie Jones. At his peak he was about 38% from 3 on good volume and comfortably led the league in steals. Elite defender and transition beast. Great size/length


    Final roster

    G: Kyrie - Derrick White
    G: Klay - Eddie Jones
    F: Bird
    F: Giannis - Malone
    C: Ewing


    Giannis won a ring with abysmal spacing and the worst 3pt% for a finals winning team since the 04 Pistons, so surrounding him with elite 3 point shooters and bigs with range would be disgusting.

    Really good combination of shooting from all levels, rim-running, post-play, and transition. Defensively there's plenty of size and rim protection. Also have the flexibility to run a small ball lineup with Giannis at center depending on the matchup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc. View Post
    Eddie Jones. At his peak he was about 38% from 3 on good volume and comfortably led the league in steals. Elite defender and transition beast. Great size/length


    Final roster

    G: Kyrie - Derrick White
    G: Klay - Eddie Jones
    F: Bird
    F: Giannis - Malone
    C: Ewing


    Giannis won a ring with abysmal spacing and the worst 3pt% for a finals winning team since the 04 Pistons, so surrounding him with elite 3 point shooters and bigs with range would be disgusting.

    Really good combination of shooting from all levels, rim-running, post-play, and transition. Defensively there's plenty of size and rim protection. Also have the flexibility to run a small ball lineup with Giannis at center depending on the matchup.
    The Bucks shot nearly 39% from 3 on high volume the year they won a ring what are you talking about? Everyone in their rotation besides Giannis was at least competent from 3

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    I'll take Bosh with the last pick

    Starting 5

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    Tatum
    AD
    Hakeem

    Bench

    Dumars
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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    The Bucks shot nearly 39% from 3 on high volume the year they won a ring what are you talking about? Everyone in their rotation besides Giannis was at least competent from 3
    They shot 32% for the entire playoff run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc. View Post
    They shot 32% for the entire playoff run.
    So? That's a much smaller sample size and you realize the spacing is still in effect because those shooters still get guarded even if they're bricking? No one is rotating out to Karl Malone or Ewing at the 3pt line

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    So? That's a much smaller sample size and you realize the spacing is still in effect because those shooters still get guarded even if they're bricking?
    Except they weren't being guarded, go watch the tape. Giannis in the finals had atrocious spacing. Ayton camped in the paint all game. Had no reason to leave it.


    You also didn't know Malone shot better on long 2s than MJ and peak Dirk. Got real quiet on that one.

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    Peja

    C DRob
    F KG
    F PG13
    G Curry
    G Luka

    G Jrue
    C D. Howard
    F Peja

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    Staring lineup would be this:

    Kyrie / Derrick White
    Klay / Eddie Jones
    Bird
    Giannis
    Malone / Ewing

    I do think Malone provides more optimal spacing than Ewing on offense. Better passer too. Has the size to guard big men 1on1 alongside Giannis as a weak-side rim protector where he thrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc. View Post
    Staring lineup would be this:

    Kyrie / Derrick White
    Klay / Eddie Jones
    Bird
    Giannis
    Malone / Ewing

    I do think Malone provides more optimal spacing than Ewing on offense. Better passer too. Has the size to guard big men 1on1 alongside Giannis as a weak-side rim protector where he thrives.
    Mm malone is only good vs people he can push and slap ball from. Any big with touch will just shoot over him. Malone at c isn’t wrong but considering these are all time cs, he’d have a hard time. Imo of course.

    -Smak

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    Now at this spot I WOULD pick TJ McConnell, its an absolute travesty hes dopped this far, but just to keep the 2000s theme of my team, I will select the Glove, who's basically a worse version of TJ.


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