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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by StrongLurk
No one denied that Lebron has plenty of bad playoff games, but its literally because he has the MOST playoff games ever played.
Him having 35 bad playoff games out of 287 total games is not a big deal. You could probably find 35 bad playoff games by Kobe who only played 220 total playoff games.
You are just an idiot who doesn't seem to understand.
Ohhhhhhhhhh yes it is lol. And it's more than 35. I posted them, so feel free to count.
And I have Lebron ranked ahead of Kobe, so if that's who you're using as your benchmark for comparison, it's telling.
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by Full Court
Ohhhhhhhhhh yes it is lol. And it's more than 35. I posted them, so feel free to count.
And I have Lebron ranked ahead of Kobe, so if that's who you're using as your benchmark for comparison, it's telling.
I included Bird too. Again you are dumb if you think Bird is a better playoff performer than Lebron.
I wouldn't even respond to your trolling if it wasn't so easy to disprove everything you say.
Here is what you are saying.
Lebron - 35 bad games out of 287 total games is worse than Larry Bird having 30 bad games out of 164 playoff games.
You are an idiot.
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by StrongLurk
I included Bird too. Again you are dumb if you think Bird is a better playoff performer than Lebron.
I wouldn't even respond to your trolling if it wasn't so easy to disprove everything you say.
Here is what you are saying.
Lebron - 35 bad games out of 287 total games is worse than Larry Bird having 30 bad games out of 164 playoff games.
You are an idiot.
Ok, then show me Larry Bird's 30 choke jobs.
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by tpols
Your "medal" rankings are also down right embarrassing as well.
Like... Curry has 1 Gold Medal? Because he didn't win FMVP over Iggy who averaged like 10ppg on the year while Steph was the league MVP?
Duncan's 2007 ring doesn't count as a Gold Medal because Tony Parker won FMVP?
Bird and Magics titles don't count as Gold Medal because Maxwell and Worthy had great Finals series?
Despite being his best championship playoff run ever Kobes 2001 15-1 superstar playoff run doesn't count in this criteria?
OP, you are a certified clown.
 Originally Posted by StrongLurk
When judging finals on an all-time scale, the FMVP is the key point.
Otherwise we can say something like this -> Scottie Pippen is 6-0 in the finals. He's the goat.
We need to differentiate the best player from those who weren't.
No it's absolutely not.
Magic, Bird, Duncan and Curry were all clearly better than Worthy, Maxwell, Parker, and Iggy on the year they won those rings respectively. And 2001 Kobe was easily > 2010 Kobe despite you counting the former as not counting, and the latter as worth Gold.
It's a retarded logic you're employing. Based on your logic Chauncey Billups has as many "Gold Medals" as Curry. 
Your criteria is just totally absurd and nonsensical on every level.
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by Full Court
Ok, then show me Larry Bird's 30 choke jobs.
You consider bad games to be choke jobs. Well, Larry has a ton of bad playoff games .
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by tpols
No it's absolutely not.
Magic, Bird, Duncan and Curry were all clearly better than Worthy, Maxwell, Parker, and Iggy on the year they won those rings respectively. And 2001 Kobe was easily > 2010 Kobe despite you counting the former as not counting, and the latter as worth Gold.
It's a retarded logic you're employing. Based on your logic Chauncey Billups has as many "Gold Medals" as Curry.
Your criteria is just totally absurd and nonsensical on every level.
Got it, so you must think Pip and Jordan are equal since they are both 6-0 in the finals.
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by Full Court
Ok, then show me Larry Bird's 30 choke jobs.
 Originally Posted by StrongLurk
You consider bad games to be choke jobs. Well, Larry has a ton of bad playoff games  .
Looks like OP is tapping out.
To paraphrase a former president: "It's not that Bronie fluffers don't know anything, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by Full Court
Looks like OP is tapping out.
To paraphrase a former president: "It's not that Bronie fluffers don't know anything, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
This is a team sport. The onus is on the player, as part of his quest for GOAT, to BE in a dynasty and hold it together. Not jump shit every time then repeat the recruitment process. One can lose even with a dynastic team (Bird, Magic, Curry, KD), but that is why MJ's precedence is ridiculous because once he had his team come together, he did not allow themselves to lose. I mean, two 3peats? The bar has been set this way. If this didn't happen, then Magic's could have been the bar.
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by Gudo
When you put yourself in the GOAT debate, there is an inherent high expectation that comes with it. Lebron has played in a number of loaded teams (a lot of which he handpicked), and the benefit of a weak conference. But the ability to play consistently when the stakes are highest (finals), is a huge mark of a great player.
Which lot of players did James handpick and just magically put on his team?
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by Full Court
Looks like OP is tapping out.
To paraphrase a former president: "It's not that Bronie fluffers don't know anything, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
Playoff games below 15 game score for Lebron and Larry.
Lebron: 37 games out of 287 games
Larry: 40 games out of 164 games
Larry has MORE bad games despite playing 123 less playoff games . It's just too easy because you are a moron.
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by StrongLurk
Playoff games below 15 game score for Lebron and Larry.
Lebron: 37 games out of 287 games
Larry: 40 games out of 164 games
Larry has MORE bad games despite playing 123 less playoff games  . It's just too easy because you are a moron.
 
Playoff games below 15 game score? Really??
Try again, silly boy. The more you try to weasel your way out of this dumb thread, the worse you make yourself look.
I'll ask one last time. Show us Larry Bird's choke jobs. You know, like I did for Lebron, AKA "LeShrivel."
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by Full Court

Playoff games below 15 game score? Really??
Try again, silly boy. The more you try to weasel your way out of this dumb thread, the worse you make yourself look.
I'll ask one last time. Show us Larry Bird's choke jobs. You know, like I did for Lebron, AKA "LeShrivel."
Your list of Lebron chokes are literally just you posting stats from bad games. So from what YOU ARE DOING, we can consider games with less than 15 game score by superstars in the playoffs to be bad games. So I just easily proved you wrong. Larry has a way higher frequency of bad games (chokes) in the playoffs (and more chokes overall).
There is literally no reason for me to list them out 1 by 1 for Larry. 40 bad games is 40 bad games. YOU GOT NOTHING BUDDY. Literally everything you claimed is proven false in this thread.
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by StrongLurk
Playoff games below 15 game score for Lebron and Larry.
Lebron: 37 games out of 287 games
Larry: 40 games out of 164 games
Larry has MORE bad games despite playing 123 less playoff games  . It's just too easy because you are a moron.
Yikes. And doesn't Bird have a finals where he had 15 on 40% from the field?
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by StrongLurk
Your list of Lebron chokes are literally just you posting stats from bad games. So from what YOU ARE DOING, we can consider games with less than 15 game score by superstars in the playoffs to be bad games. So I just easily proved you wrong. Larry has a way higher frequency of bad games (chokes) in the playoffs (and more chokes overall).
There is literally no reason for me to list them out 1 by 1 for Larry. 40 bad games is 40 bad games. YOU GOT NOTHING BUDDY. Literally everything you claimed is proven false in this thread.
I put up the data. You failed to. "Literally no reason for me to..."
Meaning you have nothing and you know it.
Full Court - 126
Bronies - 0
By the way, this thread can be considered a choke job.
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Re: Lebron has 4 gold medals and 6 silver medals.
 Originally Posted by Full Court
I put up the data. You failed to. "Literally no reason for me to..."
Meaning you have nothing and you know it.
Full Court - 126
Bronies - 0
By the way, this thread can be considered a choke job. 
This is the data you moron...
Playoff games below 15 game score for Lebron and Larry.
Lebron: 37 games out of 287 games
Larry: 40 games out of 164 games
Larry has MORE bad games despite playing 123 less playoff games.
Can you read? Seriously, you are acting like a 12 year old.
If you WANT to read them one by one for some reason, here is a link. Just sort by game score little guy... https://www.basketball-reference.com...elog-playoffs/
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